[jdsmodulus]

Well I'll just say that while we have alot of new tech out there, Facebook, Myspace etc. I wonder as I always do about the GD. Recently I had a notion about my FB page and the GD. Why I feel it necessary to "friend" Bobby or Phil or even Jerry? This seemed to me like a good way to stay in touch with the band I love and feel more connected to them. Recently some of the actual family members of the band have gone to these sites and it has become apparent that fans or heads have explotied them. I find this unexcuseable. I toured with the dead for many years and have met most of the band members personally. (yes Jerry too) and those are fun stories and fine memories of a time in my life that I would never forget. My point is, if you love them why stalk them? Any thoughts?

[phpbb]

There was a time on facebook where you could make a friend request and then start seeing that person's feed, even if they have not accepted your request. John Perry Barlow had attached his tweets to facebook, and he never logged into facebook to understand that all of his tweets were being rebroadcast to people who simply made a friend request to him. Needless to say he was pretty pissed when he found out and turned off the feature.

On a different topic, I did create a facebook app for dead shows, although I really need to take another swipe at making it better, I was just testing out how to program in facebook:

http://apps.facebook.com/deadshows

you can add the shows you went to, miracle shows to people, and make a widget on your profile that displays them, plus this day in grateful dead history. It also has links to archive.org and my geographic data.

any suggestions for it would be greatly appreciated.

[RiverRat]

Recently some of the actual family members of the band have gone to these sites and it has become apparent that fans or heads have explotied them.

I'm confused about this statement, are you referring to people creating pages on Myspace or Facebook for band members? If so, that is a blatant case of misrepresentation and it is forbidden by the terms of service on Facebook. This may also be the case with Myspace, but I doubt they would ever enforce it since Myspace is nothing more that a giant advertisement.

Facebook's Terms of Service Sections 4 & 5 deal with this on both a personal and corporate level...

For impersonation... There is a Report/Block this Person Button on the left side menu in every user profile. NOTE: you cannot report yourself or anyone on your friends list, so if you friended an account and you believe it is a fake account, you must unfriend them and then report the account to FB.

For Intellectual Property issues, go here: http://www.facebook.com/terms.php?ref=p ... wto_report

But since we're talking about social networking, here is my FB profile... http://www.facebook.com/RiverRat812

If you make a friend request, Just say RuKind in the request so I can add you to the correct Friend List.

[jdsmodulus]

Thank you for the links. I was not aware of all of the rules involved, even though I have been a member of FB for almost 1 year. To end the confusion, when I refer to family members I really mean family members. Their links can be found simply by knowing there names and searching. This obviously is the case with anyone famous but even their ex wives and children. They have lives not at all connected to the music and there lies the issue. Just because you know someones name is it becoming acceptable to call them a friend because you can?

[mttourpro]

This kind of thing is not new...anyone remember the "Fake Bob" from a long time ago?

[Rusty the Scoob]

My point is, if you love them why stalk them? Any thoughts?

I don't see FB friending somebody as stalking them. They have the option to say No, and if they do say Yes, they still control the info that goes up onto FB - it's not like you're spying into their private living room.

[jdsmodulus]

I hear you Rusty even you and I have never met in person but we communicate here all the time. I guess for me when you friend someone you should have a reason other than that their Father was in a famous band. But your right in that the other person can block the request or not respond. When I was younger I remember sleeping on Jerrys front lawn when the GD played at Shoreline. Looking back that would be considerd a crime but it seems that the boys were used to us acting crazy for whatever reason. I could tell many stories about "getting close" but none of that was ever intended to be hurtful or creepy. At least I knew who those people were and my intentions were only somewhat pranksterish.

[RiverRat]

Thank you for the links. I was not aware of all of the rules involved, even though I have been a member of FB for almost 1 year. To end the confusion, when I refer to family members I really mean family members. Their links can be found simply by knowing there names and searching. This obviously is the case with anyone famous but even their ex wives and children. They have lives not at all connected to the music and there lies the issue. Just because you know someones name is it becoming acceptable to call them a friend because you can?

Online social networking did open a can of worms when it adopted the term "friend" as a way of identifying someone you have made a connection with in some fashion. On one side, it has provided an arena and a mechanism for people who may normally not get to interact on a periodic basis. On the other, it has provided stalkers, scammers and starf*ckers with the ability to reach out, connect with and maintain contact with folks when they have no legitimate reason. It's up to an individual to decide what the term "friend" means and it's up to them to have a litmus test to evaluate every person that attempts to make a connection with them. This applies to everyone and not just to famous people.

Motive and means come into play here... but that holds true for everything, not just online.

Amazingly, a "Rubber Duck" named "Daisy Feletin" had a 46% success ration when it sent friend request to random people on Facebook.

http://www.sophos.com/blogs/duck/g/2009 ... robe-2009/

It may not be "spying on them", but it is a first step in social engineering and could easily lead up to it if the person doing it has less than noble motives.

My point is, if you love them why stalk them? Any thoughts?

ANSWER: A restraining order is just another way of saying "I Love you too!"

[hogan]

A restraining order is just another way of saying "I Love you too!"

No matter what that piece of shit Judge thinks!

[Rusty the Scoob]

Looking back that would be considerd a crime but it seems that the boys were used to us acting crazy for whatever reason.

The boys were crazy, too! I'm by far one of the least sheltered people here in my office but I'm a freaking Eagle Scout Altar Boy compared to the boys.



About friending band member's kids or something? That's not really something I'd be comfortable doing. They need to live their own lives.

[RiverRat]

A restraining order is just another way of saying "I Love you too!"

No matter what that piece of shit Judge thinks!

Actually, there are several different legal definitions when you are talking about Protective Orders. The provisions of a protective order will vary, the most common being stay away and no contact provisions.

And you're Correct... Sometimes it doesn't matter what the judge thinks, all that matters is what was in the original protective order and whether or not the defendant has a good lawyer when they are charged with violating the order. In some instances, a judge could disregard the specific provisions, make a ruling and have a defendant jailed pending a hearing. Having an attorney to make a compelling argument or produces evidence that demonstrates that no violation occurred is key to the defendant maintaining their freedom. Unless they'd rather spend some downtime in jail while waiting to go to trial or get a reversal from an appeal. Internet cases make for interesting work because it is still a relatively new area for case law and most judges and lawyers do not understand it very well.