#16534  by caspersvapors
 
I hear this lick a lot in later years, especially in solos from around 1990, its this weird descending sliding thing

I'll give you 2 examples of it and I guarantee youve heard it before

in this Jack Straw @ 3:57:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-07- ... sbeok.shnf

if you have Bruce Hornsby's "Across the River" he does it TWICE at 2:53, and AGAIN @ 4:26

 #16537  by bodiddley
 
I don't know about the lick, but I just fell in love with another shoe from 1990. Holy crap batman!

 #16539  by Billbbill
 
If this is what you're talking about it's what I'd call a decesending double note chromatic line, in two parts, one over the E chord and the other dropping into the D chord, or beginning of the next phrase.


--E------------------------|-------------------------D

e-------16------15------14---------12------11-------10
b--------------------------
g-15pu16--16po15--15po14-----12pu13--13po12---12po11-

pu=pull up
po=pull off


I use my middle finger for the G string throughout and my ring for the E string for the first part and my index for the second part.

The '|' denotes the split or phrase change. JG did this kinda stuff in a bunch of tunes all the time.

Yea, I know....video. :-)

 #16540  by Billbbill
 
another shoe
OK bo, just a typo or are you morphing into Ed Sullivan?

Just dated myself there I did. :lol:

 #16548  by shakedown_04092
 
Thanks Bill! Great riff! Got any more tasty treats up your sleeve that you can share like that??? :hail: :smile:

 #16552  by Billbbill
 
Dude I been meaning to get together, the more I think about it, a Promised Land vid that lays out a bunch of stuff. It's a good candidate for covering a bunch of jg bases. Maybe not so much tabbing out riffs from shows like above, although I'm not opposed to that, but a more comprehensive look at my take on jg's style and his tendencies toward tidbits like above.

Hopefully in the near future.

 #16554  by BlobWeird
 
Bill please do. Ive been askin for that descendin lick and variations thereof for a while and havent got many responses and got NO tabs so far till now. And yes Promised Land has alot of that signature Jerry sound. Another good'un that would cover alot is maybe a bluesy song like Truckin', Big Railroad Blues, Saturday Night, Around And Around. As im sure you know his blues licks sound familiar to what other people are doin but it still has very much a taste of his own. You hear that folky kinda sound in there sometimes.

 #16555  by ker1227
 
BlobWeird wrote:And yes Promised Land has alot of that signature Jerry sound. Another good'un that would cover alot is maybe a bluesy song like Truckin', Big Railroad Blues, Saturday Night, Around And Around.
yeah, i love all those songs and i could imagine that they were some of the more fun ones to play for jer and the band.

 #16559  by caspersvapors
 
Billbbill wrote:If this is what you're talking about it's what I'd call a decesending double note chromatic line, in two parts, one over the E chord and the other dropping into the D chord, or beginning of the next phrase.


--E------------------------|-------------------------D

e-------16------15------14---------12------11-------10
b--------------------------
g-15pu16--16po15--15po14-----12pu13--13po12---12po11-

pu=pull up
po=pull off


I use my middle finger for the G string throughout and my ring for the E string for the first part and my index for the second part.

The '|' denotes the split or phrase change. JG did this kinda stuff in a bunch of tunes all the time.

Yea, I know....video. :-)
wow thanks, did you just figure this out now? or had you known this lick for a while? when you say "pull up" is that the same as hammer on?

 #16560  by Billbbill
 
I believe I've sprinkled a few versions of this around bw, one that came to mind is this
one for half step. An oldie for sure.

http://community.rukind.org/viewtopic.php?t=466

Here's another one for Jack Straw for ferocious strumming you may have heard. Mostly right hand and timing.

---E7------A----E--Eb--D

b--15------14---12-11-10-----------------
g--16------14---13-12-11----------------

I obviously didn't tab out all the repetition for the 'ferocious strumming' thing. Strum the crap out of all the above!
Last edited by Billbbill on Sun May 20, 2007 11:16 am, edited 1 time in total.

 #16561  by Billbbill
 
I listened to the clip and pretty much new what it was from hearing it. Grabbed the gitar to see where it was. The tabbing took most of the time. Hope that didn't sound smug! :shock:

Pull up means you pull up your finger from the first fret cited to the second one cited. Hammering would work as well but I think the pull up is simpler in this instance so I always try to use the KISS rule.

To head off anyone KISS= keep it simple stupid.

 #16578  by caspersvapors
 
so I was searching for that Jerry lick in my Vault DVDs (to help get it down) but I couldnt find it, but I did find another bluesy lick that Jerry uses a lot throughout his career. You hear this one a lot in fast paced blues jams like Big River or Truckin:

example:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-02- ... efail.shnf

~ 4:45 in Big River after the 2nd "Im gonna sit right here till I die"

so in A blues...

|----5--5-------------------------5--5----------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------8p7p5--------------------8p7p5-----------------|
|-----------------------7----------------------7-----------|
|---------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------|

 #16583  by shakedown_04092
 
Cool riff, Caspers, thanks!

PS - those ending riffs on (that version of) Big River, after each "and I'm gonan sit right here until I die" are something to the effect of:

|-------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------|
|---7b9-b9--7-7--6-6------------------------|
|-------------------7-----------------------|
|-------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------|

|-------------------------------------------|
|---10-10-10p9p7-----10-10-10p9p7-----------|
|----------------9----------------9---------|
|-------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------|

|-----------------------5-------------------|
|-----------------------5-------------------|
|-----------------------6-------------------|
|-----------------------7-------------------|
|-----------------------7-------------------|
|---1^2--2^3--3^4--4^5--5-------------------|

 #16588  by Billbbill
 
Good one casper.
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|----5--5-------------------------5--5----------------------| 
|---------------------------------------------------------| 
|---------------8p7p5--------------------8p7p5-----------------| 
|-----------------------7----------------------7-----------| 
|---------------------------------------------------------| 
|---------------------------------------------------------|
You can juice it a bit and add the 5 on the b string with the 5 on the e.

Also sometimes I think instead of 8-7-5 he used 7-6-5 for a different flavor. I think.

 #16616  by BlobWeird
 
Awesome stuff casper Ive heard that riff soooo many times before and now I can bust that one out thanks. And same goes to you shakedown. Ill try to add some stuff later to this. I got a few bluesy licks.