#9445  by Jimkkc
 
Just a thought about the other ones - I just downloaded the 11/19/02 3rd disk. I downloaded only because of Susan Tedeschi's presence. Anyways, as I listened I remembered why I didn't like the other ones to begin with - it always seems like there is just too many musicians on stage. Two drummers, two keyboardists . . . There is a strange moment at the end of this set where it seems three songs are going on at once - and not in a good way. I can remember the 7/18/89 where half the boys are playing Sugar Smax and the other half are playing Scarlett, now that was kind. But hearing this stew of musicians playing at minimum three different tunes just left asking "why" - anyways, just my two cents worth. It is odd when we consider that most of these same players would get together in different configurations since and to much better results - I think it really shows how important onstage chemistry is to this style of open/jamming music.

 #9449  by phreaker
 
I always thought Phil & friends were better than the Other Ones.

Sometimes I even think DSO sounds like they know what theyre doing better than TOO.

Still, I gotta love em.

 #9463  by weedar
 
Excuse me for being lazy (if there is an excuse for such a crime..) but
didn't Joan Osborne sing with TOO or The Dead at one point? Does anyone
know of a decent show with her I should listen to. I love hearing female
voices singing Dead-tunes.

 #9475  by strumminsix
 
weedar wrote:Excuse me for being lazy (if there is an excuse for such a crime..) but
didn't Joan Osborne sing with TOO or The Dead at one point? Does anyone
know of a decent show with her I should listen to. I love hearing female
voices singing Dead-tunes.
In my not so humble opinion, good Dead show & Joan Osborne do not belong in the same sentence. I caught a few of those shows (Chicago & NYE in Cali) and each show she flubbed lyrics, awful timing, wrong emphasis, tried to 'own' the songs, tried to make them sexy (like Sugaree being sexy WTF?!) but worst of all each show seemed canned, orchestrated, rehearsed and rigid.

Sorry, still bugged by that whole thing. Cuz the next round of shows I saw without her frekin' rocked!!!

 #9476  by BlobWeird
 
I saw The Dead in August 2003 two nights at PNC Bank Arts Center. When i was there i totally enjoyed it but then a year later i bought the discs to those shows and thought it was pretty bad. Joan Osborne sang China Doll at that show and it was pretty good. Warren had one good song, built to last, and that was it. Oh and Corrina was pretty good. The rest had no spark to it. Just my opinion though.

 #9478  by phreaker
 
7-19-06
Starlight amphitheater
Kansas City
Phil 'n' phriends

Check it out. Awesome vocals by Joan.

 #9487  by Trystine
 
I enjoyed Phil and Friends 2/19/06. The best work out of Joan was on Attics.

I agree with what was said earlier, joan with the dead was well short of mediocre, however, I think she enjoys being a part of P&F and it, therefore, shows in her performances.

I must admit, though, I find it harder to enjoy a P&F show every time his revolving door takes a spin. Chemistry between musicians will get you pretty far but it also requires time to grow together, which, phil is preventing by continuely "surprising" fans with new faces on stage.