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 #75239  by tcsned
 
mttourpro wrote: FWIW, this business about 2012--more specifically 12-21-12 is horrendously misunderstood. The mayan calander ends on this date but they do not and never have foretold of the "end of the world"---they believe time is cyclical and is broken down in various spans---some short and others very long. 12-21-12 simply is the end of one cycle and the beginning of another according to the Mayan's beliefs. This particular span is one that covers roughly 26,000 years and the specific date does coincide with a number of confirmed (by our modern science) astrological occurances such as an alignment of various heavenly bodies, the earth's worble coming to completion (something to do with an uneven axis--almost like a leap year) and other things I cannot remember. If you're interested, I'd suggest an excellent book on the subject (rather dense though---not light reading) by Daniel Pinchbeck. Here's a link below.

http://www.dailygrail.com/node/2977

Also, FWIW, the Mayn's had a more accurate calendar and ability to accurately quantify time than we do presently. Too bad Cortez slaughtered them.
Agreed - nothing I've heard from anyone who is actually an historian/anthropolgist who knows something about Mayan civilization suggests that it is anything other than just the end of a cycle of time. It's also funny to see people use the Aztec calendar image as if it were Mayan too.

Cortez actually slaughtered the Aztecs though he claimed the Mayan Yucatan it wasn't the famous massacre that Neil Young wrote "Cortez the Killer" about - that was the Aztecs and Moctezuma. Though it was really an epidemic of European diseases that wiped out the ruling class of Aztecs in Tenochtitlan that made Cortez' job pretty easy. I think it was about 1/3 of the ruling class was dead and another 1/3 was sick . . . from what I remember from Latin American history classes many moons ago. Sorry, I'm a history geek :oops:
 #75241  by erock
 
mttourpro wrote: FWIW, this business about 2012--more specifically 12-21-12 is horrendously misunderstood. The mayan calander ends on this date but they do not and never have foretold of the "end of the world"---they believe time is cyclical and is broken down in various spans---some short and others very long. 12-21-12 simply is the end of one cycle and the beginning of another according to the Mayan's beliefs. This particular span is one that covers roughly 26,000 years and the specific date does coincide with a number of confirmed (by our modern science) astrological occurances such as an alignment of various heavenly bodies, the earth's worble coming to completion (something to do with an uneven axis--almost like a leap year) and other things I cannot remember. If you're interested, I'd suggest an excellent book on the subject (rather dense though---not light reading) by Daniel Pinchbeck. Here's a link below.

http://www.dailygrail.com/node/2977

Also, FWIW, the Mayn's had a more accurate calendar and ability to accurately quantify time than we do presently. Too bad Cortez slaughtered them.
one more tidbit that will probably take away Daniel Pinchbeck's living. the whole 2012 is actually off by about 220 years. It seems there was another piece of the calender the mayan's hid from the Spanish, so they wouldn't exactly know the dates of sacrifice etc etc.

I read an article a while back but totally forget who said, if i dig it up, i'll post a link.

got it, here's a translation
http://translate.google.com/translate?j ... ry_state0=
 #75245  by strumminsix
 
mttourpro wrote:Too bad Cortez slaughtered them.
Fucking bastard. And even worse they thought he was their God as foretold by their prophets!
 #75255  by mttourpro
 
strumminsix wrote:
mttourpro wrote:Too bad Cortez slaughtered them.
Fucking bastard. And even worse they thought he was their God as foretold by their prophets!
Talk about a bad forecast.