#58814  by jonarobb
 
Still on the fence about this one. Had a great time at the Obama gig in the fall, and the other night at Roseland was an absolute blast, but....

Warren needs to lose that envelope filter and turn up the reverb a little. Now that the honeymoon is over I realize he still overplays and his tone is thin and dry. Ahhh, oh well.....
 #58818  by Chuckles
 
What was the guitar/amp setup at Roseland? He sounded great with the Strat -> Fender amp setup back in January.

I think he's a pretty much an either/or guy; Strat or LP and no middle ground/tapped HB's from which to glean a mix of sounds. And, for God's sake leave the Soladanos at home for the Dead tour!
 #58820  by golfnutt
 
I'm pretty sure you will be seeing the 335 and the strat. Don’t worry he will not be bringing his Mule rig with him....I hope you will go into this with an open mind I believe Warren just may surprise you on this tour.
 #58822  by astroman99
 
jonarobb wrote:Still on the fence about this one. Had a great time at the Obama gig in the fall, and the other night at Roseland was an absolute blast, but....

Warren needs to lose that envelope filter and turn up the reverb a little. Now that the honeymoon is over I realize he still overplays and his tone is thin and dry. Ahhh, oh well.....
Wow Jonarobb,I was flamed mercilessly for saying Warren had a thin tone, aand accused of not knowing a thing about guitar...good luck
Also I read your post from Roseland and made me feel old and bad for not being there,'cause for some reason I trust your evaluation... your other posts are chock full of good info and and insight.
I hope the boys get it together, I might even go to willks barre...
I wonder how there energy level will be throughout the tour?
 #58827  by strumminsix
 
Okay, this sucks. I've never heard Warren's tone described as thin until twice here.
I always feared it would be too "Les Paul Fat"....
 #58830  by Tennessee Jedi
 
jonarobb wrote:Still on the fence about this one. Had a great time at the Obama gig in the fall, and the other night at Roseland was an absolute blast, but....

Warren needs to lose that envelope filter and turn up the reverb a little. Now that the honeymoon is over I realize he still overplays and his tone is thin and dry. Ahhh, oh well.....
Havent listened to much but I was thinking Warren was laying way back. Seemed like he was letting the core 4 do their thing ...
:?:
The E Filter thing I heard was bad. It's to easy to make them sound gimmicky .... I thought it sounded a bit toy-ish.
:?:
Reverb is a good thing
:D
Even though I think his e. filter sound blows I'm still pumped. Warren is a great player.
I just tell myself -
" he aint Jerry; no one is ;have fun "
:D
 #58831  by Tennessee Jedi
 
strumminsix wrote:Okay, this sucks. I've never heard Warren's tone described as thin until twice here.
I always feared it would be too "Les Paul Fat"....
Me too.
Warren in the Mule had a fat ass tone.
Maybe its changed since Allen Woody died; I havent seen Warren since.
:D
 #58844  by ebick
 
Tennessee Jedi wrote:Maybe its changed since Allen Woody died; I havent seen Warren since.
:D
Funny how your eyes play tricks....I was like....Woody Allen died?
 #58846  by jonarobb
 
Yeah, didn't mean to instigate that Warren equals something negative. The guy is a smokin guitarist. The show at Roseland was amazing on so many levels. My hyper critical ear just needs to relax I guess. It's interseting to note that they picked Chimenti on keys. He's the best of everything that the Grateful Dead had in the piano spot. Hammond, Rhodes, Piano.... And when he solos or comps, it's so inspiring. His technique allows him to play in the style that suits the music. So compare this with Warren, and unfortunately you see limitations instead of potential. BUT, I've come along way with my criticism of Warren Haynes. I'll continue to keep an open mind and am very psyched for some more of whatever that was the other night....

The Jam out of Saint Stephen into Dark Star was really exploratory and the wormhole doors were just about to open but they put the kabash on it. I could have listened to a whole show of just that kind of playing.


If i could just get on stage to turn Warrens reverb up......
 #58849  by Tennessee Jedi
 
ebick wrote:
Tennessee Jedi wrote:Maybe its changed since Allen Woody died; I havent seen Warren since.
:D
Funny how your eyes play tricks....I was like....Woody Allen died?
Once in front of the TLA in Philly I ran into Allen Woody.
I said to him " Woody Allen you rock !"
:oops: :oops: :oops:
 #58852  by Rusty the Scoob
 
Tennessee Jedi wrote:
strumminsix wrote:Okay, this sucks. I've never heard Warren's tone described as thin until twice here.
I always feared it would be too "Les Paul Fat"....
Me too.
Warren in the Mule had a fat ass tone.
Maybe its changed since Allen Woody died; I havent seen Warren since.
:D
Me Three. I expected Warren to come out with his huge Gibson tone (which he does still have BTW, even after Allen Woody) - then saw that Strat and knew he's at least trying to fit in correctly. The Dead's whole dynamic and sound were built around Jerry's guitar... it doesn't have to be Jerry for it to work but a Gibson humbucker through smoking Soldanos would be too big. So long story short, I'm getting excited to see them in a couple of weeks.
 #58882  by ebick
 
Tennessee Jedi wrote:
ebick wrote:
Tennessee Jedi wrote:Maybe its changed since Allen Woody died; I havent seen Warren since.
:D
Funny how your eyes play tricks....I was like....Woody Allen died?
Once in front of the TLA in Philly I ran into Allen Woody.
I said to him " Woody Allen you rock !"
:oops: :oops: :oops:
.........and why the hell would Woody Allen have anything to do with Warren's tone?!?!?! :? :?

:lol:
 #58889  by Emoto
 
ebick wrote:
.........and why the hell would Woody Allen have anything to do with Warren's tone?!?!?! :? :?

:lol:
Because Warren is Woody Allen's illegitimate son?