#53532  by Billbbill
 Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:30 pm
ronster wrote:Here's how I end it. A little diff then Bill's as I don't want him coming after me for royalties:
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|-----------2-2-4-4-|-----------2-2-4-4-|----------2-2-4-4-|-4p2---------2s14-|
|-0---3h4-----------|--0---3h4----------|-0---3h4----------|------4-2-0--0----|
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Hey Bill your getting these videos down pretty good but they are missing that little something. Ever consider lopping off a chunk of your middle finger? Just a thought, but it would make the videos even more jer like. I picked up a C-1 classic on ebay. I liked the tone your getting out of yours and for 4 bills seamed like a no brainer. Should be here in a few days. I'm thinking of starting up a BillBill tribute band.
You're a funny guy! No finger lopping in my plans though I do have a fleshly bump of some sort on the inside of my index finger that might, with the help of my middle finger, make a nice pick holding apparatus while finger picking. Maybe I'll give that a go.

Good luck with the C-1. 2 or 3 nob?
 #53537  by b weird
 Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:39 pm
Hey guy's thanks for the multiple Intros and riffs. I'll thave to try them out tomorrow though since it's late here in NY. Peace and thanks.
 #53557  by BlobWeird
 Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:29 am
Well while I was playin deal just before I remembered this post so I figured i'll drop my way of playin it in here. I know im missin notes cuz he seems to fingerpick this intro a bit and well I dont have the skill for that lol

E|--------------------------------------------------------
B|--------------------------------------------------------
G|-----------------------------2--------------------------
D|--2-------------2----2----------2----------2--2--5p4p2--
A|-----0----3--4----------3h4----------3--4---------------
E|--------------------------------------------------------

Kinda sorta goes off the Cornell 77 version
 #53665  by BOUKINATOR
 Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:37 pm
A c#m7 f#m f#m7 D7 Ao

got that straight off an old JGB show.. the f#m7 gives you the E you're looking for

any theory buffs in here? I'm pretty sure it's not technically an Ao
the chord might function as a secondary dominant of some sort?
D#o would be a vii/V in A, but it resolves to E not A

that's bothered me for years!
 #53667  by Billbbill
 Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:51 pm
BOUKINATOR wrote:A c#m7 f#m f#m7 D7 Ao

got that straight off an old JGB show.. the f#m7 gives you the E you're looking for

any theory buffs in here? I'm pretty sure it's not technically an Ao
the chord might function as a secondary dominant of some sort?
D#o would be a vii/V in A, but it resolves to E not A

that's bothered me for years!
the 5 or 6 vids I watched showed jg fingering an A7 instead of the F#m7. As I said I didn't really hear that g note. The A(7) has the E as well. ftr the "Garcia" songbook doesn't have anything between the F#m and D7 and sometimes just D and no D7. It also has a C#m instead of C#m7. I see the C#m on the 2nd fret in the vids as well. Bouk, I'm assuming this is from a vid, is it on youtube? The book also has it as Ao.
 #65379  by Billbbill
 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:02 pm
wtractor wrote:how do i learn to solo like that? or how did you learn to solo like that?
Hey wtractor - I guess first thanks - it's flattering that you'd like to emulate this.

Well as to the first part I've been trying to communicate my approach for about 4 years on this board, and w/o much real tecnical musical knowledge it hasn't been easy.

As for the 2nd part it's pretty much a combination of things. 1st I have a pretty good ear. Once I have something in my head I usually do a pretty good job of getting it to the fretboard. I've also been playing for about 26 or 27 years. As long as you have passion, and in my case a good ear, pretty good sense of melody, some decent dexterity in the fingers, drive to keep learning new things, and keep at it, you're gonna be pretty good after 27 years! Anyone who plays also want their music to 'say something'. To have some kind of rewarding impact. I'm often playing 'off of myself' in the sense that I'll play a phrase and then try to complement it, often by either having the complementary portion vary from the initial phrase to varying degrees, all the time conscious of what notes tend to evoke what sentiment depending on the song. Another big thing is trust which comes with becoming more and more comfortable with scalular sensibilities. We start a sentence, whether speaking (or typing!) with an idea of what we want to say but without really knowing what words we're going to use but with the trust that we will get our point across. I view soloing similarly. I may not know exactly what notes I going to play but I'm confident that with the scalular sensibilities I have that I'll be able to make it meaningful in some way.

For my money the most important things are to have a sense of melody, a good ear and curiosity.

Back to the first part. If you're speaking specifically about the verse lead boy you picked a good one! Yikes! It's always be one of the most challenging for me. I suppose it's about finding and adjusting to changing keys or modes or tonal centers. I find it to be important to really be cognizant of the chord I'm soloing 'over'. With Deal there's a whole lot goin on. In a way an extreme of my approach would be like arpeggiating throughout a chord progression and then with that in mind adding in notes (here's where that good ear helps) with the arpeggios to produce scales that reflect the tonal center. And then add in some chromaticism within that framework as well. At times (I've noticed along the way) a note may not sound right in a given context, until other notes are added in to change or expand the context.

Not sure if this is making any sense to you, or anybody else for that matter, and much depends on where you are in learning the instrument. So tell me a bit about where you are in learning to play.
 #119226  by gdrfk1990
 Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:04 am
This functions F#m F#m/E D7 D#dim7 and Jerry plays it 2 ways I label it this way bevause it is clearly a D# in the bass not an A they are the same notes. The chord funtions both as a passing chord and a sub for the V chord creating tension before returning to the 1 chord

E|--------------
B|--2--2--3--7--
G|--2--2--5--5--
D|--4--2--4--7--
A|--------5--6--
E|--------------




E|--------2--2--
B|--2--2--1--1--
G|--2--2--2--2--
D|--4--2--0--1--
A|--------------
E|--------------