[mttourpro]

Definitely very cool TS.


I guess I should plan on taking a trip out there in 2112.

[jonarobb]

No doubt about that---check out the show from 10 years later as well....I think they referred to it as the Decadenal Reunion or something like that and it was almost exactly 10 years later--8/28/82. FWIW, they also were going to do it again in 92 but I think it was cancelled due to jerry's health problems in fall of 92.. Maybe someone from RUKind was there?? Below is from Setlists.com

08/28/82
Oregon County Fair Site - Veneta, OR
Set 1:
Bertha
New Minglewood Blues
Tennessee Jed
Me And My Uncle
Big River
Althea
It's All Over Now
China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider


Set 2:
Day Job
Man Smart-Woman Smarter
West LA Fadeaway
Far From Me
Playin' In The Band
Drums
The Wheel
The Other One
Truckin'
Black Peter
Playin' In The Band
One More Saturday Night


Encore:
Dupree's Diamond Blues


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Comments:

I arrived at the start of Althea, the proceedings were bizarre, the band never seemed to settle in, I sensed a certain spaciness in their playing, like they couldn't sync up, I don't remember the encore, Dupree's, I always felt there wasn't an encore becuase I remember Artis the spoonman playing after the Dead left the stage, people kind of milled about like they didn't think the show was really over...
-John, [email protected]



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The scuttlebutt is that they droped acid for this show.

I was backpacking in the Three Sisters. We got rained out, and went to breakfast in the town of Sisters that morning.

We met people coming through who had been to this show, and one guy said "they played for like EIGHT HOURS, man!"
-danf, [email protected]



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Veneta Ten Years after
The boys were thought to have dropped some paper for this show, which may explain the relaxed and longer than usual country and western 1st set until China>Rider. Minglewood had some good highlights and Jerry was beautiful in Althea.

II
Day Job-1st/57 times played...before they over did it.
West LA Fadeaway-1st/141 times. Lyrics different from future versions.
Far From Me-Short version
Playin'-Fast. Must have been a "team peak"?
Wheel>T01>Truckin-Only time played other than 4.27.85. "Sex change" line in Truckin'

E: Dupree's-Last played 4.14.78

Supposedly show was cut short due to dust from crowd with hands out of the pocket pool. There was supposed to be a 92 reunion show, but either it was Jerry following his MD's advice to get off the road, and or the local God fearing folk that utilized their 1st amendment rights.


-Perrinswolf (03/28/2007)



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I was at this show as well as almost everything in 82'. It was pretty eventful. The vibe on the tail end of summer tour was this Oregon show was going to be mega-dosed. There was more fungus around than anything. People literally giving handfuls out to the willing. I honestly can't remember if the band played any hotter than usual. It was my first summer out on the road doing hardcore tour. Frankly Jerry was a mess but you know, there was some hot shit going on. Iowa City and Red Rocks stand out.

[RiverRat]

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[tigerstrat]

jerrys tone is very strange that day compared to all other 72 shows, does anyone know what was different that day

The Sunburst Strat... doesn't appear to be a pre-1960 model.

Somewhere between 1958 and 1960, Fender switched the magnet orientation on the Strat pickups. Prior to 1960, the pickups had the north pole "up"... After 1960, the south pole was up. The winding remained clockwise for both.

And so are you saying that in the film, Jerry's south pole appears to be "up"? (minds out of the gutter...now!)

I've previously seen this sunburst (also seen in 7/26/72 pics) ID'ed as a 1957 by a vintage Fender & Gibson aficianado on Y!Gearheads. One big difference from Alligator is that the Burst has a stock Strat trem bridge as opposed to the hardtail.

Alligator itself is up for debate as to whether it s a swamp-ash '56 or a'57 that was originally special-ordered in Honey White (the only way to get a swamp-ash body post-'56) and then stripped.

[krzykat]

Has my favorite post 60s Dark Star!

thats the reason right there. the most epic dark star of all time

[bodiddley]

Methinks I will crank 8-27-72 up today. It's been a while.

[RiverRat]

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[jonarobb]

The Sunburst Strat... doesn't appear to be a pre-1960 model.

Somewhere between 1958 and 1960, Fender switched the magnet orientation on the Strat pickups. Prior to 1960, the pickups had the north pole "up"... After 1960, the south pole was up. The winding remained clockwise for both.

And so are you saying that in the film, Jerry's south pole appears to be "up"? (minds out of the gutter...now!)

I've previously seen this sunburst (also seen in 7/26/72 pics) ID'ed as a 1957 by a vintage Fender & Gibson aficianado on Y!Gearheads. One big difference from Alligator is that the Burst has a stock Strat trem bridge as opposed to the hardtail.

Alligator itself is up for debate as to whether it s a swamp-ash '56 or a'57 that was originally special-ordered in Honey White (the only way to get a swamp-ash body post-'56) and then stripped.

Compare Promised Land from:

5/16 or 5/26
to
7/25, 8/27 and 9/21
to
12/31 and 2/9/73

The Nash Ash (Pre Gator) was used in Europe, the summer shows have a much grittier tone... the silky smooth tone returns with the Gator in the fall. That tone continues right on through to the Wolf's Tone in 73... take 6/10/73 or 12/31/73

The following table shows Stratocaster pickup specs from 1954 to 1967. Seymour got this data from the thousands of Strat pickups he has fixed or rewound. He then averaged the data together by year, and came up with this table. Note the magnet polarity was changed in 1960 (even though Seymour thought it was 1958, other data suggests it's more like 1959/1960).

To further complicate this, the 8 hole pickguard was used right through til 1960 as well. The 3-ply 11 hole was introduced in 1959, even though 1-ply 8 hole pickguards (and bakelite hardware on some guitars) were seen until 1960 or later.

Celluloid "mint green" three layer (white/black/white) pickguard (sometimes called a "nitro" pickguard), with 11 attachment screws. This celluloid pickguard was implemented around 7/59. So for a short time rosewood fingerboard Strats were made with a single layer white pickguard with 11 screws. Some 7/59 Strats even had a single layer white pickguard with 8 or 9 or 10 screws (though this is rare). Also in the same time period some 1959 Strats were made with a maple neck and a 8 screw three layer celluloid pickguard (this implies the body will not have a "shoulder" under the pickguard in the control cavity).

Check the Promised Land video clip, right around the last verse, we get a view of the back of the Jerry's neck... I don't see a skunk stripe (then again, the vids on Youtube are not that great)

Maple fingerboards, 1960-1968: available as special order. Different than the 1950s one-piece maple necks. These used an actual slab maple fingerboard glued to the maple neck, and no "skunk stripe" down the back of the neck for the truss rod.

Jerry used the Dan Erlwine customized Strat for the bulk of the fall of 1972. The Brown one with the Gibson style Tune-O-Matic bridge and stop tail piece. There are photos of him from October and December using it. Alligator seems to come back for the beginning of 73'. Lots of pictures from Utica and Buffalo & Rochester in the Spring of 73'showing a third version of Alligator. Also, I think the first show with Wolf were the Nassau shows in September of 1973 so the RFK shows would still be Alligator. Yes? No?

[Tennessee Jedi]

Jerry used the Dan Erlwine customized Strat for the bulk of the fall of 1972. The Brown one with the Gibson style Tune-O-Matic bridge and stop tail piece.

Is that this guitar ?
http://www.rockstarphotos.net/gallery/d ... os-18.html
Jerry definitely had some love for Strats.

[jonarobb]

Jerry used the Dan Erlwine customized Strat for the bulk of the fall of 1972. The Brown one with the Gibson style Tune-O-Matic bridge and stop tail piece.

Is that this guitar ?
http://www.rockstarphotos.net/gallery/d ... os-18.html
Jerry definitely had some love for Strats.

Yes, that be the one. That shot of the beardless Jerry with Wolf is from him sitting in with the Allmans at the Cow Palace on NYE of 73-74. I love those photos.

Have you seen these:

Watkins Glen 7/73

http://www.flickr.com/photos/grantdabas ... 224730871/

Buffalo 9/73

http://www.flickr.com/photos/grantdabas ... 245530511/

[Tennessee Jedi]

Thanks for the pics !

[RiverRat]

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[tigerstrat]

RR, hard to tell what any of that info about the pickguard or pups is actually supposed be saying, because you don't relate it to any observations about the Burst strat. Of course, those are some of the most easily replaceable parts on a strat, and you could easily put an 8hole PG on an 11 hole strat or vice versa.

[tigerstrat]

Jerry used the Dan Erlwine customized Strat for the bulk of the fall of 1972. The Brown one with the Gibson style Tune-O-Matic bridge and stop tail piece. There are photos of him from October and December using it.

jr, are those October pics with the Erlewine online somewhere? Only seen the Dec shots.