#42811  by Django
 
Loser,
Perhaps some would say that it is just as easily contemporary, but in my youth guns, Abilene, aces, getting up in the morning and ride (ing) all connate the old west. Ergo, cowboy.

 #42814  by caspersvapors
 
lol the other one is not a cowboy tune

 #45042  by TerraGin
 
Me & My Uncle and Cumberland

 #45050  by deadguise
 
lol the other one is not a cowboy tune
Well there is a cowboy named Neal in the song...

 #45054  by willmusic
 
I don't think Cumberland is really a "cowboy" song. I guess it's a miner song, eh?

 #45063  by TerraGin
 
I guess cumberland could be considered a miner song

 #45084  by Pete B.
 
Cumberland Blues is a take-off on Merle Haggards "Workin' Man Blues" which is a hard core country song if ever there were.

Jerry confirms this on pp.67-68 of the book "The Stories Behind Every Grateful Dead Song 1965-1995".

http://www.amazon.com/Grateful-Dead-Str ... 818&sr=8-6
 #45150  by kenneybonz
 
they never went one into the other, though, right? wouldn't that be sweet?
 #45151  by kenneybonz
 
by that rationale, is loser a cowboy song or a miner song?
 #45156  by tigerstrat
 
kenneybonz wrote:by that rationale, is loser a cowboy song or a miner song?
It's a gambler song.He's taking money away from the cowboys AND the prospectors.

 #45164  by Django
 
I guess I tend to think of the old west when I hear 'cowboy song' rather than the occupation. If it was just the occupation of cowboy, I can't think off hand of any dead cowboy songs :-)

Did they cover 'get along little doggies'?

Now the old west... cowboys and indians and railroaders and miners and gamblers and gun fighters and saloon girls and bank robbers getting away on horseback etc. It all applies imho.

Not Cowboy Neil, a speed demon, bus driving, hammer juggling and rapping beat icon. He is more personal to the times and the dead, pranksters, and Kerouac; correct?

 #45166  by bodiddley
 
How 'bout "Big River"?

I know "Been all Around this World" is more of a mountain/hillblly song but I think of it as a cowboy tune.

FWIW, Mama>Mexicali is my least favorite combo of cowboy tunes. Also sick to death of El Paso. Remarkably, I never tire of "Me and my Uncle". Go figure

 #45178  by tigerstrat
 
I never get tired of Mexicali, especially Phil's bass lines.

 #45179  by Pete B.
 
Interestingly, (to me, anyway) "Big River" is a Johnny Cash tune, that the GD kick off with what is basically the intro to Mearle Haggards "Workin' Man's Blues".

In that book I'm reading, Jerry goes as far as to say he believes the GD were on the "far fringe" of the Bakersfield Sound during the Workingmans Dead timeframe, and that they went to see guys like Buck Owens, and thought they were great.
He points out that he learned "alot of stuff" from Don Rich (Buck Owens guitarist, a Tele player).

Concerning Mexi... I've found it's a very short leap from the Emaj7 Eyes intro solo scales to the Mexically intro solo scales.

Funn Stuff!
~pb
 #45181  by kenneybonz
 
so we got, miners, gamblers AND cowboys.. i like it .. i like it..
:cool: