[jck_strw]

One of my favourite aspects of music is how I can listen to a song dozens and dozens of times and I'll think it's a good song, nothing special. Good song worth hearing, kinda thing. Then, all of a sudden, something happens--a particular performance, the right "environment", etc. and the song all of a sudden clicks. It means something more--to get all icky and emotional, it connects with you and resonates much more deeply than before. It's then that a song starts to open up--it's sortof like those b&w pictures. You see a picture of a goblet or something and then all of a sudden, you blink, and then you see it's two faces.

Buckets of Rain (Dylan), just hit that point. I've listened to that album dozens and dozens of times. I was at Fur Peace Ranch last weekend and Happy Traum was there. He did a version of this song that blew me away. Now, the track from Blood On The Tracks is amazing and I can't stop listening to it.

Gotta love music.

[Benthegoodbum]

Yea man, music is groovy like that...that sort of thing can happen with anything though. I used to dislike mustard very much then one day a year ago I put it on a sandwich and now I can't get enough of the stuff! So I guess life is the groovy thing.

[fum84]

i used to generally not like phish that much. then one day i heard a divided sky that was unusually beautiful. been hooked since

[HOWEYMAN]

A long time into listening to the Dead, never really cared for the tune "Passenger". then one day heard a rippin version and now its just as cool as any other dead tune.

Believe in or not, it was the same with "Saturday Night", now its one of my favorites.

[eyeprod]

agreed. music is magic. hearing and seeing a song performed live can really open your mind as to how the song works. some performers understand a song and how it works better than others, and it can also take time for a song to truly develop for a performer. i've seen weir display clear and potent mastery of songs like throwing stones (bob & rob days)with only his one guitar. that kind of stuff really impresses me too.

most of the songs i write are raw ideas and i have to figure them out by playing them solo, with other instruments(esp drums), recording and listening again and again before i really understand them and am able to start developing. it's that raw idea which is where the magic is. too much developing = too much thinking and not enough feeling. for me music is a mix of both, but feeling comes first.

[yem]

fun84 wrote something like

i didnt like phish untill i heard dived sky

btw that isn't and exact quote but that song had SOOOOOOO....... much to do with my musical development, if you will i cant forget it


i know phish will never live up to what the dead did, and in the honest opnion of a huge phish fan, they never tried to do that, but you cannot deny the sheer musical quality of that peice

personally that is the first song that i spent over half of my life trying to perfect and i still can't get the half of it

as soon as i think i do i hear a new version and im back to the scrap book

peace nate



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[yem]

sorry fum84 missread of your name

[yem]

by "half of my life" i meant half of my (if you will) guitar life.......kinda drunk trying to mend up all the loose ends

[spilly]

I never like mustard or horseraddish untill I had Webers Horseraddish mustard, now I like both.

I was just ricking out to "Radar Love" by Golden Earing, not quite hippy stuff, but I had a gas
I also just randomly fell in love with Dire Staights "Walk of Life" after not giving a damn about it for years.

Phish doesn't have to live up to the Grateful Dead, becuaue their not trying to be the Grateful Dead.
I think we should go a week without comparing anything or anybody to the Grateful Dead. See what kind of new conversations we can come up with

[mikeohiostate]

Phish is very different from the Grateful dead (thus changing the topic of this thread to a Phish vs. Dead arguement.)

its hard to compare the two.

Dare I say (gasp), Phish could go deeper into jams then the Dead could in their latter years. Phish also could cover more musical ground. However, I still like the Dead more.

Just my thoughts

[LazyLightnin]

i hate it when phish does "cartoonish" vocals. it just cuts me like a knife. theyve got some ridiculous good jams, but the vaccum cleaner bit.....with the trampolines....how is that entertainment?. ive known far too many people who thought that was the coolest thing ever . comparable to Page and his violin bow - what odacity!

[phreaker]

It's cool because it's different, and no one else is doing it. But yes. Phish is quite ridiculous sometimes. I hear they're getting back together in a couple of years.

and the only way I find Phish to be similar to the Dead is they are both jam bands. Other than that, there is no comparison. you can't say one is better than the other.