[st stephen]

oh did i forget to mention, forget to mention playin, throwin stones and a big part of truckin.

[HOWEYMAN]

Playing in the Band (although the scream mode of Donna or Bobby does not embelish that song (IMO))

I agree with this!. see the forum I started on Donna

P.S. I assume that this Vince avatar was dumped on me as a joke after my last post. Please indicate to me how I can delete it. Otherwise, this is my last post here at the forum.

Yea, man, this has nothing to do with material of your posts, just the amount of how many times you post. We are all friends here. Nobody is out to get ya here man. Just some friendly disagreements.

[Tennessee Jedi]

I'm for Koonsing him.

[Sugar]

Thanks, people. Sorry if ruffled some feathers here. I didn't mean to. I have never been at a BBS before where an avatar is given to you based on the number of posts.

I guess that I will just have to post my way out of Vincedom in the direction of Keithdom and Jerrydom.

Sugar

[pappypgh]

Taste is subjective and that's what makes music great.

For ME, not having Cowboy tunes at a GD show would be lame. GOTTA have the mix up! PLUS, Jerry got to show off. He was a SERIOUS PICKER - not just a jammer. One of his strongest fortes was what he did during songs like Me & My Uncle and Mexicali and Big River and Cumberland Blues and El Paso and Mama Tried. PLUS their tightness of it...fantastic - all around bandwise, I mean...just fun, in general.

The Bobby thing is also a mystery to me. How someone can say the GD is all Jerry is beyond my comprehension. That's what JGB was for - BUT, even then - how are you gonna deny Melvin? Or Kahn? Or the girls?? Bob Weir is a SICK songwriter, a SICK rhythm guitarist and a great vocalist. Lazy Lightning, anyone?? Music Never Stopped?? Estimated Prophet?? There's a HUGE list of wonderful Weir music. And Garcia shone on all of it. The CHEESE, i.e.: Lovelight, Good Lovin', Around & Around, etc...ALL GOOD! A wonderful 'capper' to a great evening. Gotta have some downright, good ol' rock and roll, people.

The diversity of a setlist MADE a Dead show for me. If I went and the whole show was:
Eyes, Dark Star, Playin', UJB, The Eleven...etc., it'd be cool for a while...but keeping it fresh & diverse....that's the best for ME!

[Sugar]

Some of my very favorite Dead are the country-tinged ballads: Brown-Eyed Women, Ramble On Rose, Loser, Tennessee Jed, Mississippi Half Step etc., although they mostly feature Jerry on vocals. The faux cowboy stuff doesn't grab me, but, hey, as you say, taste is taste. I am just stating mine.

Please don't read into my previous posts that I think the Dead was just Jerry. Jerry is what makes the Dead timeless for me. If it wasn't for Jerry, I wouldn't be listening to the Dead. On the other hand, I really appreciate the overall level of musicianship in the Band, particularly Keith, Phil, and Bill. Bob Weir also played some tasty rhythm guitar, for sure.

Sugar

[Mick]

I was never a big fan of Lazy Lightnin' or Mama Tried. I like Me and my Uncle though. Bobby is really cheesy on Around and Around, but I always liked that anyway. Cassidy is a favorite of mine but I couldn't sing that if my life depended on it. For God's sakes, I can't even SAY "Come grow the scorched ground green" in a reasonable amount of time without messing it up. And "A catch colt draws a coffin cart" is almost as bad. My kids and I were changing the lyrics to be easier to sing a few weeks ago, we got some things like "catch a cold from the coffee pot" or "catch a cold in the parking lot". Amazing that Weir/Barlow wrote so many lyrics like that with Bobby generally being quite tongue-tied most of the time.

I agree that the mix was one of the things that made the shows great. Hard rockin' stuff like around and around mixed with cowboy stuff mixed with ballad stuff like He's Gone or Stella Blue mixed with semi-happy/mystical stuff like Ripple with the occasional guitar-fest of a good China-Rider rock the place home with GDTRFB and give me a Brokedown encore and I would go home one happy camper.

[Candyman1984]

Indeed-Bobby Flat out kicks ass! The show for me that really comes to mind at the moment is 4-11-1978 at the Fox theater in Hotlanta! How is it possible that bobby is even singing while he plays that particular rhythm sequence on me and my uncle, and then the stuff on Brown Eyed Women later in the show is phenomenal. I was once told that in some circles i would be punched in the face for saying what i am about to write, and that is- Rhythmically speaking, bobby is light years ahead of jerry. I don't see how its not obvious. Certainly jerry rhythm was enhanced by his ability to "walk" from chord to chord by picking single notes, but in terms structure and layers nothing like what bob is doing- Just my 2 cents worth.

In other news, i agree with the previous poster that said the Blow away from buffalo 1990 is just fantastic-what a great tune.

[mttourpro]

If I went and the whole show was:
Eyes, Dark Star, Playin', UJB, The Eleven...etc.,

I'd be really happy.

[CountryMile Cadillac]

One of the highlights of the shows for me was always Drums. No matter what had songs had been played earlier in the night, you always new that there was going to be some great inovation coming out of the 'devils'. I am guilty of hitting the skip button to bypass drums and space, but if I forget to, I am generally amazed. Those guys fuckin rocked!

[HOWEYMAN]

Weir, what a groove master. I love the way he would strum his rythm chords over Phil's bass while Jerry went balistic! damb! I miss the Dead! It all fit with purpose, orgininality, and heart.

Estimated, Music. Proably my two favorite Weir songs, if I absolutley had to choose. lololo

Weir also was a master of melodic lines. you hear it all over the place. Playin, Casey Jones, China Cat, etc. It's how he would intertwine these lines with his chord approach. phenominal. IMO