#42636  by acidrain30005
 
Ah man, another one hatin on the cowboy tunes lol.

Oh well, everyone's got their opinions.

 #42637  by devil
 
Sugar wrote:throw out the corny cowboy stuff (Me and My Uncle, El Paso).

lalalallalallalala I can't hear you :-?

 #42642  by HOWEYMAN
 
Sugar wrote:Take the usual setlist vintage 73-74 and throw out the corny cowboy stuff (Me and My Uncle, El Paso). sugar
can't agree :(
Sugar wrote:For the very best, choose the ones that feature Jerry the most. :)Sugar
again, cannot agree. telling this to someone new to The Grateful Dead could lead them to miss out on some of the best material the band had to offer. Obviuosly not a Weir fan. Bummer :(

 #42696  by Sugar
 
devil wrote:
Sugar wrote:throw out the corny cowboy stuff (Me and My Uncle, El Paso).

lalalallalallalala I can't hear you :-?
Sorry, I'll speak louder

THROW OUT THE CORNY COWBOY STUFF!!!

:twisted:

Sugar :-)
Last edited by Sugar on Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.

 #42697  by Sugar
 
HOWEYMAN wrote:
Sugar wrote:Take the usual setlist vintage 73-74 and throw out the corny cowboy stuff (Me and My Uncle, El Paso). sugar
can't agree :(
Sugar wrote:For the very best, choose the ones that feature Jerry the most. :)Sugar
again, cannot agree. telling this to someone new to The Grateful Dead could lead them to miss out on some of the best material the band had to offer. Obviuosly not a Weir fan. Bummer :(
You guessed it. I'm not a Weir fan, at least not in general. On the other hand, no ordinary individual could have come up with the inspiration for Sugar Magnolia. So I do admire Weir. I also like the interview that Rolling Stone did with him not long ago. Weir came across as a very intelligent and nice person, something that was not always clear in the interviews that he did back in the day.

The setlists started going downhill in the late 70s when they dropped Dark Star and tried to revive Good Lovin' with Bobby on vocals. :-x

Myself, I went with the Dead in the 70s and then switched over to the Jerry Garcia Band in the 80s.

Sugar

 #42699  by Tennessee Jedi
 
Your missing out than,Sugar.
Some of Jerrys best work comes on Bob tunes.
Mexicali is a guitar showcase for Jerry.
:smile:

 #42703  by BuddhaG
 
Seriously, man, some of Jerry's best guitar work is on Bob tunes where he doens't have to worry about getting to the mic to sing all the time. I love his lead playing on El Paso from the 70's. His lead playing is such a huge part of the dynamics in that song, its friggin brilliant!

How about Let It Grow, Music Never Stopped, Playin' in the Band, Samson & Delilah, and many many more that Bob sang lead on.

You are missing out if you ignore Bob tunes, the Grateful Dead were a complete package and not a one man show by any means.

 #42704  by Tennessee Jedi
 
Wow -
Me (Flyers) and You (Habs) are agreeing on something ?
MAYBE there is hope for peace on Earth......
:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
 #42705  by Maybeck09
 
Are you asking for tapes or which were the best songs to see live?

My best Live Dead experiences were with:

Terrapin Station
Scarlet Begonias
The Other One
Morning Dew

These songs were special in a live event for different reasons. But they usually brought great joy, power, wisdom, rhythm and happiness with a smile/smirk of Dead magic.

 #42734  by Sugar
 
BuddhaG wrote:Seriously, man, some of Jerry's best guitar work is on Bob tunes where he doens't have to worry about getting to the mic to sing all the time. I love his lead playing on El Paso from the 70's. His lead playing is such a huge part of the dynamics in that song, its friggin brilliant!

How about Let It Grow, Music Never Stopped, Playin' in the Band, Samson & Delilah, and many many more that Bob sang lead on.

You are missing out if you ignore Bob tunes, the Grateful Dead were a complete package and not a one man show by any means.
Hey, don't get me wrong. I don't dislike all of the songs that Bobby sings. I'm just not too crazy about Me and My Uncle or El Paso, or most of the hard core cowboy or R&B stuff with Bobby's vocals. I tend to like hia vocals a lot better when he is singing his own songs, as opposed to putting on the cowboy or R&B thing. I like Sugar Magnolia (always), Jack Straw (really fine song!),Playing in the Band (although the scream mode of Donna or Bobby does not embelish that song (IMO)), Black-Throated Wind, Weather Report Suite (parts of it). For me, it is indeed ultimately Jerry's guitar work that makes it or breaks it from the point of view of wanting to still hear it today.

Peace, my fellow Dead fans. 8)

Sugar

P.S. I assume that this Vince avatar was dumped on me as a joke after my last post. Please indicate to me how I can delete it. Otherwise, this is my last post here at the forum.

 #42736  by Mr.Charlie
 
I'd have to say that the "cowboy" songs are a quintessential part of the grateful dead experience, but thats just me. As for you avatar, it changes with the amount of posts you make, everyone had Vince, so its nothing personal.

 #42741  by BlobWeird
 
Sugar wrote: P.S. I assume that this Vince avatar was dumped on me as a joke after my last post. Please indicate to me how I can delete it. Otherwise, this is my last post here at the forum.
Wow chill out man. Dunno why you think everyone's hatin on you.

 #42745  by Mick
 
Sugar wrote:Hey, don't get me wrong. I don't dislike all of the songs that Bobby sings. I'm just not too crazy about Me and My Uncle or El Paso, or most of the hard core cowboy or R&B stuff with Bobby's vocals. I tend to like hia vocals a lot better when he is singing his own songs, as opposed to putting on the cowboy or R&B thing. I like Sugar Magnolia (always), Jack Straw (really fine song!),Playing in the Band (although the scream mode of Donna or Bobby does not embelish that song (IMO)), Black-Throated Wind, Weather Report Suite (parts of it). For me, it is indeed ultimately Jerry's guitar work that makes it or breaks it from the point of view of wanting to still hear it today.

Peace, my fellow Dead fans. 8)

Sugar

P.S. I assume that this Vince avatar was dumped on me as a joke after my last post. Please indicate to me how I can delete it. Otherwise, this is my last post here at the forum.
Your Vince avatar was not "dumped" on you, nor is it a joke. Your avatar changes based on how many posts you have made to date. If you don't like the Vince avatar, the way to get rid of it is to post more.

Just my $0.02, but I never liked Let it Grow. I am a big Bobby fan though, and love Sugar Magnolia, Greatest Story Ever Told, and many more. I am kind of hot and cold on the "Cowboy" stuff, I never cared for Mexicali Blues. My tastes seem to be a little unusual compared to the average poster here (for one thing, I always liked Vince and I seem to be the only one), but generally nobody gives me any crap about it. The advice of the others is good, relax, nobody here that I know of is looking to take a swipe at anyone. Sure we bust on each other quite a bit here, but if it sounds harsh, chances are it's a joke.

 #42746  by st stephen
 
gosh bobby is the king at writing music. we all play guitar here so i think its safe to say OVERALL bobby tunes are harder to play then jerrys. the guy was and is a genius. Music never stoped, weather report, Estimated, saint, lost sailor, Cassidy, LLR, Feel like a stranger. The list goes on and on. Then his guitar parts on tunes like Brown eyed woman and the intro to china cat. Bobby is a very intrical part of the grateful dead and i always say the dead would not be the dead without bobby...i mean what would it have been like to go to a show on a saturday night and not here One More SAturday night or sugar mag and then the show ending without jerry ripping sunshine daydream. Oh did i forget to mentions bobbys JACK STRAW and his classic falsetto haaas...