[bucketorain]

Hey now. does anyone out there use this pedal? i have one but I find it a bit confusing. Just wondering if it's just me or if others find it a bit difficult.

thanks!

[willmusic]

Bought it....RETURNED IT!! It's a pain in the ass and is only good for real-time looping if you have the external footswitch. That allows you to scroll through your patches hands-free. I'd say if you go with Boss, get the RC20-XL at least. Then you at least have a display that tells you which patch you"re on and your other (scroll) footswitch is already there. Believe me, with looping it helps to know where you are.

[High Peaks]

It seems to me like the only looper people are consistently happy with( both for functionality and easy to use) is the Boomerang. Are there any other options out there that are comparable??

[gratephulphish123]

from what i've heard boomerangs the best too

i saw one on ebay for $200 a day or two ago, you could check if it's still there

goddamn those things are massive

[Aint't Often Right]

There was a column here earlier, now under guitar, called "easiest way to loop". A couple folks really praised the RC2, so I asked for one for Christmas. I might be back for technical advice if it's as confusing as described here, assuming I get one. I hope it's not too bad, because all I asked Santa for was a Boss RC2 and a new pair of fuzzy slippers.

[CaptainTrips]

I have been extremely pleased with my Digitech JAMMAN and I havent met an owner of this pedal that has been anything but totally pleased with it.

[jackr]

+1 on the Jamman.

[Pete B.]

Hey now. does anyone out there use this pedal? i have one but I find it a bit confusing. Just wondering if it's just me or if others find it a bit difficult.

thanks!

I would say... read the manual again, and practice with it.
I had one on loan for a week or two, it was the first loop pedal i tried. I found that as long as you end the loop right on the beat, it works fine.
This model was one of the earlier ones.

I tried a RC20XL aslo, but ended up buying a Digitech JamMan.
It was brand new in the box, on our local craigslist, $185.

[ronster]

I looking for a looper but I want one with a decent drum machibne. Does the Jamman have a drum machine?
I noticed that the Digitech GN3, GNX4, and GNX3000 have a looper, drum machine and a bunch of other stuff and is not much more than the Jamman. How does the looper on these units compare with the Jamman and are the drum tracks good eneough to use for recordings or just something to practice along with.

[Pete B.]

The JamMan drum machine sucks.
In all honesty, the RC20, or RC20XL have better sounding drum tracks, to my ear.
I am curious what the other Jamman owners will say, as maybe they have found something I have missed.
With that said, we are still talking about just a cheese-ee kick/snare thing.
I have an alesis HR-16 that I bought in 1989 that I am still using for a drum machine. I can program it very quickly.
I set the JamMan to the mode where it starts to record as soon as the incoming music starts. so I use my Alesis and guitar.
Again, with that said, I find I also do alot of loop creation from CD's. I like to loop segments of songs, then play along with them.
I have the external foot pedal for the JamMan, and have created 4 loops for Eyes... the Emaj7 intro/outro jam, the Emaj7>Bmin solo, the Emaj7>Bmin>A solo, and the G#m solo.
So using the pedal I can move from segment to segment, and, as it goes with these pedals, solo 'till ya drop.
This method has really solidified my CAGED method of soloing.
I made these loops when I first got the pedal, so they have the cheese-ee drum machine.
I don't think I would ever get into loop-gigging. It's a helluva a practice tool though.

[CaptainTrips]

As a proud JamMan owner I agree the "drum machine" if thats what you want to call it . . . kind of sucks. Thats really the only thing I can say against it, but I usually just use a metronome for the rhythm and solo to the backing guitar.

That said, what I like to do is use Guitar Pro to make some real cool intricate rhythms and then feed them into the aux input of the JamMan and build on top of there and I find that the sound of that is awesome and with Guitar Pro you can get tons of different sounds and feels.

[old man down]

I've got the Jamman on order and the the RC-20XL already enroute. Both to be here within a week, so I'll probably be able to give an A/B report.

One thing I know is that the RC-20XL has a reverse loop capability, but I don't know if that matters to me.

Other than that, the Jamman may be much better because you can go to 2 MB (or something) of mem storage by buying more Flash.

What I'll be interested in will be subtle circuitry advantages of one over the other. Like will one's tone be impaired more than the other's. I'm new to all this so I hope to get it right when I decide on which one to keep. Without knowing anything, I'm leaning toward the Jamman, but each review I check out is like a coin toss up for steering me in the right direction.

[jackr]

That said, what I like to do is use Guitar Pro to make some real cool intricate rhythms and then feed them into the aux input of the JamMan and build on top of there and I find that the sound of that is awesome and with Guitar Pro you can get tons of different sounds and feels.

I use guitar pro as well. Can you explain more about how you get the guitar pro sound into the jamman?

You say that you plug into the aux input. Is that directly from the computer? I am not getting it.

[CaptainTrips]

Yup, I take a 1/8 plug to 1/8 plug audio cable, http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... age=search, and plug one side into your aux input of the JamMan and one end in the audio out/headphone/speaker jack of your CPU's soundcard and set the JamMan to start recording at the first sound of music and you have a perfect loop. All you need to be sure to do is hit it off on the beat.

[CaptainTrips]

I've got the Jamman on order and the the RC-20XL already enroute. Both to be here within a week, so I'll probably be able to give an A/B report.

One thing I know is that the RC-20XL has a reverse loop capability, but I don't know if that matters to me.

Other than that, the Jamman may be much better because you can go to 2 MB (or something) of mem storage by buying more Flash.

What I'll be interested in will be subtle circuitry advantages of one over the other. Like will one's tone be impaired more than the other's. I'm new to all this so I hope to get it right when I decide on which one to keep. Without knowing anything, I'm leaning toward the Jamman, but each review I check out is like a coin toss up for steering me in the right direction.

JamMan has 2 GB capacity which is about 6 and a half hours of backing tracks. Also another nice feature is you can say, record something off a cd or a show and then slow the riff down without changing the pitch, which will help you tab stuff out yourself.