When it doesn't fit anywhere else
 #32785  by golfnutt
 
So I have been listening to a lot of Miles Davis lately and wanted to learn more about him. I picked up his autobiography and came across this:
“So it was through Bill (Graham) that I meet the Grateful Dead. Jerry Garcia is their guitar player and I (we) hit it off great talking about music-what they liked and what I liked-and I think we all learned something, grew some. Jerry loved jazz and I found out that he loved my music and had been listening to it for a long time”
Man, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall listening to these to musical geniuses rap how cool that must have been! Does anyone ever recall Jerry talking about this conversation I don’t remember ever reading about it, but maybe you have? It would be cool to hear Jerry’s take on this.

After reading this book it was pretty appetent that Miles didn’t throw around compliments too much and was pretty appalled by the lack of musical knowledge that most of the Rock Bands possessed at the time (versus his jazz contemporaries).

 #32788  by willmusic
 
I'd read about this somewhere. May have been a book (Scully's or Mcnally's, maybe not). Not really from Jerry so much, but someone quoting Miles. Something about Jerry knowing his jazz and, being blown away by the....something to that effect(?). Anyway, yes I believe it's somewhere in the realm of Dead lit.

 #32789  by Chuckles
 
Jer and the boys were also mention prominently in the recent issue of Rolling Stone in a feature article on Ornette Coleman.

 #32795  by High Peaks
 
i live in Saratoga springs, ny. Theres always been a huge bar scene here. Its all predicated on the casino's and speakeasys that operated during the depression. Well with the spa theme and the horsetrack we always get a lot of celebrities, and everyone is pretty chill so they just kind of hang around town. My old man told me a story about way back when-- probably 60s-- he went to a little jazz club on Congress street. There was miles up on stage with someone else, and they had made a pyramid of different types of bar glasses. My old man, who enjoyed the herb and others back then got to see Miles and some other guy ( who for all i know could be anybody) sit there and play the glasses with spoons for like 2 hours. He said it was great!!!!!

 #32826  by Tennessee Jedi
 
I remember reading something Phil or Jerry said about Miles and Bitches Brew band opening for the Dead.
Something like Miles played the heaviest shit and then we come on with our little songs.Think they were blown away.
I think I have some live Miles from SF that is wailing shit. :cool:
I think its called 3 Nights in San Fran or something.
Maybe its called Live Evil ?
Its driving me crazy that I cant remember this :D

 #32833  by Rev_Roach
 
McNally's book has some good quotes from/about Miles during the part describing how he and his Bitches Brew band (like Tennessee said) open for the dead in April 1970 at Fillmore West. Miles sounds like a funny guy.

Jerry and Phil found him a very tough act to follow. Phil said "Made me feel so dumb I thought 'What the fuck am I doing here? Why aren't I at home digesting what I just heard?'"

Apparently he opened a few dates for Steve Miller before he did for the boys and talked a lot of shit about Steve. "I'm pissed I got to open for this non-playing motherfucker just because he had one or two sorry-ass records out. So I would come late and he would have to go out first, and then when we got there, we just smoked thte motherfuckng place and everyone dug it, including Bill Graham"

Miles found the shows with the Dead much more enjoyable. Funny quote about the audience: "The place was packed with these really spacy, high white people"

Miles was surprised with the Dead's musical knowledge, which he did not see in other rock bands. He "hit it off great" with Jerry.

Jerry later said one of the biggest things he learned from Miles was "open playing. I got part of that from Miles, especially the silences. The holes. Nobody plays better holes than Miles, from a musician's point of a view anyway."

It's pretty cool how Long Strange Trip has an index and i could just look up Davis, Miles to find all this.

 #32838  by Tennessee Jedi
 
I knew I read something like that somewhere.
Thanks man.
That Bitches Brew is wailing.
Like everyone has a wah wah :lol:
On the live thing I had the guitar guy was pretty hum ho in my opinion (Hum ho?Ho hum?)
I wish I had "space" in my playing and not guitar diarhea. :lol:
LOve Kind Of Blue.
I like to think of it as the 1st psychedelic album :cool:

 #32846  by Rev_Roach
 
Tennessee Jedi wrote: LOve Kind Of Blue.
I like to think of it as the 1st psychedelic album :cool:
Oh yeah? Well So What? :lol: :smile:

 #32847  by Tennessee Jedi
 
Thats a good one Rev.
Funny Funny :lol: :lol: :lol:

 #32849  by bucketorain
 
miles is fantastic, kind of blue, bitches brew, sketches of spain, porgy and bess. all amazing and very trippy.

i thought i read the miles/jerry reference in What A Long Strange Trip.

because of the deads love for Jazz, its strange how it was only at Nassau in '90 that they brought Brantford on stage...granted, they summer before they had Clarence on stage....but Clarence is not too jazzy...

 #32873  by strumminsix
 
Tennessee Jedi wrote: I like to think of it as the 1st psychedelic album :cool:
Bitches brew was released in 1970.

Anthem Of The Sun in 1968
Surrealistic Pillow in 1967
Eight miles high by the Byrds in 1966

IMO, there were earlier psychedelic releases.

 #32893  by Rev_Roach
 
he was talking about Kind of Blue, released 1959

 #32896  by Crazy 9.5 Fingers
 
As long as we are talking about Kind of Blue I just had to chime in and say that if I had one album to listen to for the rest of my life, it would be Kind of Blue.


Also I remember laughing my ass off many times when I read the Miles autobiography, but when he called Steve Miller a "no-playing motherfucker" I thought it was gold.

If anyone out there hasn't read the book, I highly recommend it.

 #32898  by golfnutt
 
Also I remember laughing my ass off many times when I read the Miles autobiography, but when he called Steve Miller a "no-playing motherfucker" I thought it was gold.
Miles defiantly had the gift of candor he would tell you just what he thought no political correctness BS from him.
I agree with crazy fingers it is a fantastic read and would recommend it. I was really impressed with the way Miles sound was always changing he was always looking to take his music to new places never relying on past “achievements” to carry him through.That sounds like someone we know.