#30464  by ebick
 
I'm gettin' too old for this stuff, kids.

Aside from some of the issues I had with many of the other attendees.....I'd like to have a conversation with Mr. Weir.

Let's forget for a moment about the overgrown B&M which some interpret as an attempt to physically morph into Jerry, see if you can identify a pattern here....

Here are the "Grateful Dead" songs performed last night, in the following format:

Title/Sung By/Written By

Help On The Way->Slipknot!/Garcia/Garcia
Loser/Garcia/Garcia
Brown-Eyed Women/Garcia/Garcia
Big RR Blues/Garcia/Other
Been All Around This World/Garcia/Other
Me & My Uncle/Weir/Other
Althea/Garcia/Garcia
Days Between/Garcia/Garcia
Franklin's Tower/Garcia/Garcia

Bob wrote a few good Grateful Dead songs.....didn't he?

Now, I know that it is not always the case that he doesn't play any of his GD songs, but this seems to have gotten worse and worse over the years.

Bob....what is your obsession with Jerry songs?!!?!?!

At times, it felt like I was at a cover band gig.
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 #30465  by shakedown_04092
 
Yeah, but Ed...he's been playing his stuff w/ the Dead for 30 years and with Ratdog for the last 12. Maybe he's a little bored with his stuff and has found new life for himself in some of Jer's songs. I mean, he really only started playing Jerry songs a few years ago, so if you take a look at the timeline here....Ratdog has defintely gotten more popular over these last few years....I'm not saying this is why, but maybe Bob's thinking is that some of it is because he's added so many Jerry songs over these last few years, and he's thinking "hey, if the folks want to come out and here me play that stuff, well then that's what I'll do". Not to mention if he only played his stuff, it would be fairly limiting material. Playing Jerry's tunes may double his catalogue.

I dunno, just a thought. But like you said, he doesn't always play that many Jerry songs, just take a look at the setlists. Either way, in my mind, it's all GD material anyways, and I
m fine with that.

 #30466  by CountryMile Cadillac
 
I hear what you are saying about his setlist as well. I can see the allure of those songs to Bob though. Think about all the times he played them with the boys. Don't you ever 'remember' a song that you had not played in a while? It brings something back to you, maybe that is what he doing.
He was asked about bringing out all those Dead songs and said...“I got lonesome for them,” he said.

 #30468  by smile_smile_smile
 
CountryMile Cadillac wrote:“I got lonesome for them,” he said.
...hopefully lonely enough to get back together with the rest of the band

 #30473  by ebick
 
All good points, and I'm not against (completely or partially) him playing anything from the GD catalog. I just think he should keep it a bit more mixed up. As I said, it really seems to have become an obsession.

I will say this, however. A few of the tunes, specifically Loser and Althea, he has really put a very different feel to.

 #30480  by Candyman1984
 
They are Bob songs when he's singin' em.

 #30483  by Pigpen
 
Well I havent seen Bob in about a year so I cant really say. Last February, it was probably half Dead and half his own. This contrasts to the year before were it was overwhelmingly Bob. Now im fine with either situation really but id like to hear his take on all the Jer songs. I think it would be pretty cool.

 #30492  by shakedown_04092
 
I heard Loser in Boston over the summer and really liked his rendition of it, thought it was spectacular. Different, but you know, I liked that. It's nice to hear how he was able to reinterperet it after so many years.

 #30496  by razmablues
 
i don't think it's a conscious decision to play jerry songs. imo there really is no difference between his songs and jerry's songs now, they're both his children. He played em both for over 30 years, and he just picks his set list by what SONG he wants to play, not him wanting to play lots of jerr ones.

my humble opinion :smile:

 #30502  by zoppenheimer
 
First dead realatedshow for me was Ratdog on my birthday 3 years ago. I had barely listened to any Dead, but Bobby played this awesome version of Scarlet Begonias, or maybe it was just awesome cause it was the first time I had heard the song :-?. That really got me hooked though, so I guess I'm down with Bobby playing Jerry tunes.

 #30508  by strumminsix
 
I agree, Ed. I go to RD to hear some awesome Bobby tunes but the sets are too filled with Jerry tunes.

You'd think after 30+ years of alternating Jerry song, Bobby song, he would at least have kept it balanced.

It actually pissed me off last time in hindsight that I haven't heard some Bobby jems in quite some time.

I like when he resurrects a Jerry song that they shelved for a good portion of time though...

Obsession??? It's an obsession but it's pleasing!

 #30509  by frankielee
 
As a founding member of the Grateful Dead Bob Weir can play any Grateful Dead song he Goddamn well pleases!
 #30530  by IamDocWatson
 
ebick wrote:I'm gettin' too old for this stuff, kids.

Aside from some of the issues I had with many of the other attendees.....I'd like to have a conversation with Mr. Weir.

Let's forget for a moment about the overgrown B&M which some interpret as an attempt to physically morph into Jerry, see if you can identify a pattern here....

Here are the "Grateful Dead" songs performed last night, in the following format:

Title/Sung By/Written By

Help On The Way->Slipknot!/Garcia/Garcia
Loser/Garcia/Garcia
Brown-Eyed Women/Garcia/Garcia
Big RR Blues/Garcia/Other
Been All Around This World/Garcia/Other
Me & My Uncle/Weir/Other
Althea/Garcia/Garcia
Days Between/Garcia/Garcia
Franklin's Tower/Garcia/Garcia

Bob wrote a few good Grateful Dead songs.....didn't he?

Now, I know that it is not always the case that he doesn't play any of his GD songs, but this seems to have gotten worse and worse over the years.

Bob....what is your obsession with Jerry songs?!!?!?!

At times, it felt like I was at a cover band gig.

bob had a beard back in 74
its because steve kimock is limited to the songs he knows...more jerry tunes than bob

up until this tour it was rarely more jerry tunes than bob....more bob tunes a few covers and a few ratdog originals

besides who do u want to hear do these tunes??
no one??? joan osborn??hahah...phil??lol he sucks at singing and his band is not tight

its a privelage to still hear jerry tunes played well
 #30533  by strumminsix
 
IamDocWatson wrote:
ebick wrote:I'm gettin' too old for this stuff, kids.

Aside from some of the issues I had with many of the other attendees.....I'd like to have a conversation with Mr. Weir.

Let's forget for a moment about the overgrown B&M which some interpret as an attempt to physically morph into Jerry, see if you can identify a pattern here....

Here are the "Grateful Dead" songs performed last night, in the following format:

Title/Sung By/Written By

Help On The Way->Slipknot!/Garcia/Garcia
Loser/Garcia/Garcia
Brown-Eyed Women/Garcia/Garcia
Big RR Blues/Garcia/Other
Been All Around This World/Garcia/Other
Me & My Uncle/Weir/Other
Althea/Garcia/Garcia
Days Between/Garcia/Garcia
Franklin's Tower/Garcia/Garcia

Bob wrote a few good Grateful Dead songs.....didn't he?

Now, I know that it is not always the case that he doesn't play any of his GD songs, but this seems to have gotten worse and worse over the years.

Bob....what is your obsession with Jerry songs?!!?!?!

At times, it felt like I was at a cover band gig.

bob had a beard back in 74
its because steve kimock is limited to the songs he knows...more jerry tunes than bob

up until this tour it was rarely more jerry tunes than bob....more bob tunes a few covers and a few ratdog originals

besides who do u want to hear do these tunes??
no one??? joan osborn??hahah...phil??lol he sucks at singing and his band is not tight

its a privelage to still hear jerry tunes played well
Wow, total perspective change! Thanks, Doc!!!

Seriously, the thought of Joan singing :-x

And Phil, love him, but he sucks as a singer.

And totally right on all of your other points!
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