#24482  by shakedown_04092
 
Hardest song I'm playing now is Divided Sky by Phish. Have it all down, just struggle w/ that palindrome part - it's soooo fast and tough to keep up with. I can do it at a slower speed, but not in real time. I'll get it, though. I also have Stash down, but although it seemed real hard in the beginning, it doesn't seem hard at all now. Also practicing Lizards and Julius currently. Julius isn't theoretically hard, per se, just technically hard because it's very precise and repetetive and quick. Constant flow, can't miss a note type thing.

As for GD, I guess the hardest song I play by them would be Eyes, based on what you guys say, but I don't find it all that hard. That doesn't necessarily mean I'm kicking it's ass J-Gar style, but I think I'm adequate at it at the least. You know, I don't find GD to be all that technically "hard", but more creatively hard. I mean, the songs are fairly simple and straight forward, for the most part, and maybe that's why so many of us love playing it. Even when they get into theory and the technical stuff, it's all pretty much surface level. The stuff that I find hard is the solos Jerry does (in terms of well incredible he puts his phrases together), Bob's chord comps/styles/rythms/just the way he plays and accents, and the comination of them all working as a band and one unit. That's the amazing and un-replicable part to me.

But for Phish, for instance, I look at their music and find it much harder and more broad in terms of what's going on and how much there is to think about. A lot of their stuff is very technical, and I wonder if maybe that's why more people don't give it a shot on guitar. Now, I know some folks don't because they can't get with their music, but for those of you who don't mind Phish or even (gasp!) like Phish, do you challenge yourselves and try to tackle some of their stuff? I've learned a lot by doing that. Kinda like having a music teacher, but you end up being your own teacher by studying the music, if that makes any sense.

Back to the Dead, I don't think Eyes is the hardest song, just the hardest song I play, I guess....maybe WRS > Let It Grow - that get's pretty hard in spots. I'd put King Solomon's, Unbroken, Terrapin (which I play, but not consistently....and not really hard...just a lot to remember), Victim, Sailor > Saint, Dupree's, Help > Slip, and maybe even Lazy Lightning > Supplication in the category of being the "hardest songs to play by the GD". I'm probably missing a few, but it's 12:20 a.m. and I've had a few after watching the Pats trounce San Diego!

G'night!

 #24510  by Django
 
What is up with San Diego? Just trying to do an acoustic version, I would say 'Black Throated Wind'. No harder really than 'Deal' or 'Black Peter' chord form wise, but the performance of it is not nearly so comfortable.

 #24514  by Candyman421
 
well i guess the hardest song i know how to play in general is "docs guitar" by doc watson, beautiful song, the fingerpicking is tough, the speed is tough and hitting all the notes is super tough that gets my bid for the hardest song for me to play.

as for the dead, i would go with the popular choice of help-slip, also i find that crazy fingers is difficult as well

 #24516  by mttourpro
 
It's surprising to me to see that Eyes is considered a difficult song to solo over....I would have thought to see Crazyfingers,Lazy Lightning and Estimated in there more just fot he sheer vastness of chords and 7/4 time sigs....

as for me, the hardest song to play over well is probably Unbroken Chain (which my current band has yet to learn) . We have also not even attempted King solomon's Marbles or Lazy Lightning.

 #24517  by amyjared
 
Wow, you folks really know how to play! I think the hardest are songs like Mood For a Day by Yes and Wind Cries Mary. As for Dead songs, I still can't play songs like Help or Let It Grow (just parts of them) and the "easiest" song I can't play is Dire Wolf. Maybe cuz I can't sing, I rely more on my playing and it doesn't sound right w/out singing.

 #24522  by gratephulphish123
 
hardest song ever to play is you enjoy myself i've made basic attempts but just quit theres too much to remember, hardest dead song however i'd have to say help/slip, very very very many things to remember

 #24524  by gratephulphish123
 
shakedown_04092 wrote:Hardest song I'm playing now is Divided Sky by Phish. Have it all down, just struggle w/ that palindrome part
i had the palindrome part down for one night only. i could play it with my eyes closed by the time i was done, solid 3 hours or so spent on that damn thing. i didnt play the line for 3 or 4 days after and realized i had no idea how to next time i played guitar

alot of the fugue songs i dont play, way too complicated for very little payoff

 #24554  by acidrain30005
 
Probably Weather Report Suite Prelude (though I got it down now) and Help-Slip

 #24572  by frankielee
 
You guys are way outa my league...Many of the dead songs are hard for me...i'm basically a strummer and do it for my own joy...i love playing and SINGING Standing On The Moon and Black Peter...Actually any dead song i can play brings me to that wonderful place where the music just takes me...so COOOOL!

 #24598  by krzykat
 
for me it rubin & Cerise
 #24626  by Henry
 
shakedown_04092 wrote:I've only been playing for about 4 years now, and the hardest song for me to play right now is Help>Slip...just soooo many notes and patterns to remember. I certainly can't do it without looking at it, and even then I have a hard time.
Well I've been playing for 30 years and right now can't even think of playing that sucker, so take it easy.
At this point, I hardly play any GD tunes beyond '71-'72. I can handle most of the vintage stuff quite easily, however there are some tricky items there as well. For instance, it's kinda hard to play St. Stephen really well, also Cryptical Envelopment has a weird passage in it. It all depends on your own definition of "hard". I'm always having trouble with unusual chord progressions, I really have to sit down and work those things out bit by bit. I admit looking at tablature helps in those situations. Maybe that's one thing I neglected, never having had any formal training.
Some seem hard only at the first glance. I thought Deal was difficult, but there really is just one odd chord. Uncle John's Band seemed difficult until I figured it out.
As for the most fun songs, I can name quite a few:
Bertha
Easy Wind
China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider
Playing In The Band
Bird Song
Sugar Magnolia
or Ripple and Friend Of The Devil, just singing and playing acoustic.
Speaking about non-GD music, I think the hardest tunes I ever managed to play were in my pedal steel days, like some Buddy Charleton instrumentals like Rhodes Bud Boogie or Texas Troubadour Stomp. (He was a big influence for Buddy Cage, BTW.) But I eventually took a break from steel for pretty much the same reasons as Jerry did. Maybe some day I'll get at it again, but right now I just don't feel like it.

 #24630  by astroman99
 
FEEDBACK!

 #24634  by bobbybobbob
 
astroman99 wrote:FEEDBACK!
oh boy, feedback sure is hard to play :o

 #28360  by Long Distance Runner
 
Some of my favorites to play are:
Grateful Dead - Unbroken Chain
Grateful Dead - Help on the Way > Slipknot!
Grateful Dead - Not Fade Away > GDTRFB
Phish - Stash
Widespread Panic - Airplane
The Beatles - Blackbird
Led Zeppelin - Over the Hills and Far Away
Pink Floyd - Time

 #28365  by astroman99
 
bobbybobbob wrote:
astroman99 wrote:FEEDBACK!
oh boy, feedback sure is hard to play :o
yeah, I only play acoustic!