When it doesn't fit anywhere else
 #18174  by Winterland
 
Check out Boomers Story. great slide. Also didn't bob play slide comming out of space into NFA. Check Stanley th. I belive 1980 Space>NFA

 #18202  by IamDocWatson
 
strumminsix wrote:Jerry does play slide on the WRS Prelude.

I've heard JG on slide and he's been good but not impressive to the level that he is on lead. I'd hazard a guess and say Bobby's more regular experimenting and work at it could put him above JG.
dude that is pedal steel for sure, the era when they were playing shows with NRPS jerry kept the steel on stage for the GD shows, im not sure the exact years but probably like 70-73/4 weater reports jerry played pedal steel alot, listen to the pitch and volume changes thats pedal steel not slide

 #18207  by strumminsix
 
IamDocWatson wrote:
strumminsix wrote:Jerry does play slide on the WRS Prelude.

I've heard JG on slide and he's been good but not impressive to the level that he is on lead. I'd hazard a guess and say Bobby's more regular experimenting and work at it could put him above JG.
dude that is pedal steel for sure, the era when they were playing shows with NRPS jerry kept the steel on stage for the GD shows, im not sure the exact years but probably like 70-73/4 weater reports jerry played pedal steel alot, listen to the pitch and volume changes thats pedal steel not slide
Totally agree that the album is pedal steel and that many shows were too. But I'm fairly certain he pulled it off with a slide on a few shows that I've heard. Either that or the character of the pedal steel was not captured at all and it sounded like a slide.

That said it can be played with a slide and sound good! I've done it :)

 #18209  by Shaggy
 
Jerry played most of the big moments on slide like Cosmic Charlie and Passenger. As well as soloing on the likes of Little Red Rooster and Hurts Me Too. Bob came into it more in the late 70's in terms of impact on the slide. But I don't think too much of his slide playing, often it's far too dry and tinny. Though he did some nice behind the sound stuff like on Stagger Lee. Jerry kept it more structured and sounded far more impressive to me.

 #18212  by strumminsix
 
Shaggy wrote: But I don't think too much of his slide playing, often it's far too dry and tinny. Though he did some nice behind the sound stuff like on Stagger Lee. Jerry kept it more structured and sounded far more impressive to me.
I'll never understand Bobby's tone - going solid state preamp, love of the bridge pickup... IMO a slide needs a nice fat pickup with rhobust tone.

 #18217  by Shaggy
 
Yes I agree on tone, I find that there's less leeway when it comes to tone when playing slide. Just stick to a chunky sound for it to breathe in.

On Bobby, my experince of Bobby ends in 95. I've not kept up with Ratdog(impossible living where I do) so I can't really comment on where he's at now.

 #18219  by IamDocWatson
 
strumminsix wrote:
IamDocWatson wrote:
strumminsix wrote:Jerry does play slide on the WRS Prelude.

I've heard JG on slide and he's been good but not impressive to the level that he is on lead. I'd hazard a guess and say Bobby's more regular experimenting and work at it could put him above JG.
dude that is pedal steel for sure, the era when they were playing shows with NRPS jerry kept the steel on stage for the GD shows, im not sure the exact years but probably like 70-73/4 weater reports jerry played pedal steel alot, listen to the pitch and volume changes thats pedal steel not slide
Totally agree that the album is pedal steel and that many shows were too. But I'm fairly certain he pulled it off with a slide on a few shows that I've heard. Either that or the character of the pedal steel was not captured at all and it sounded like a slide.

That said it can be played with a slide and sound good! I've done it :)
sorry i quoted the wrong post, i was referring to the dicks picks 1 WR..that is def pedal steel...
i know there is no constant with grateful dead live recordings, i was speaking about dp 1 when i said definately

 #21329  by prephippie
 
Bob plays slide on The Closing of Winterland DVD...during Scar>Fire and during Stagger Lee.

 #21336  by Henry
 
For slide playing, you should never underestimate the power of open tunings. What turned me on to slide was a German Rockpalast special in about 1980 where Pete Haycock of the Climax Blues Band explained open tunings and I just thought "So this is how it is done...", I'd never been able to figure it out until then. For starters I would say just tune your guitar to open G (DGDGBD, low to high) or open D (DADF#AD) and try to experiment a bit and sooner or later the familiar blues licks will just fall into place. The G tuning has a somewhat "sweeter" sound but some basic voicings are available on both in different positions.
But I also higly admire players like Rory Gallagher who in the middle of a tune could jump into standard tuning slide effortlessly. What is crucial for standard tuning is damping with your fingers behind the slide to eliminate undesired notes.
As for the material, I think on the acoustic metal definitely works best. Glass gives a somewhat lighter sound on the electric, but you have to press on it somewhat harder. Duane Allman used little medicine bottles. My own preference is copper, cut from a piece of heating tube, which I've been using for as long as I can remember.
Lately, for most acoustic slide work I prefer my Tricone resonator guitar, played overhead like a steel with a Dobro bar. In addition to open G and D I also sometimes use a tuning I picked up from David Lindley, another big favorite of mine. It's almost only firsts and fifths, BF#BF#BD# or a half step up: CGCGCE. You'll need heavy strings for that. It gives kind of an eerie sound, most standard blues licks are not easily available with it.