[chubbypony]

conversations with the dead is a great book, i checked it outta the library for my senior term paper on the dead and i would end up every night then reading that book

[Banjomike0319]

Yeah I read conversations with the dead and it was fantastic, I dont remember alot of it right after I read Garcia and that was a trip, if you wanna know alot about garcia or behind the scenes info. Read Garcia, its a great book. After Reading those to books I totally forgot that Mick's dad was there manager and he scamed them thats why mickey was away for a while.

[LazyLightnin]

wonderful, ive never been a doors fan myself lol.

[HawaiianDedhed]

wonderful, ive never been a doors fan myself lol.

Word.

[BigJilm]

I would have loved to have seen Floyd so much. The act is so fucking amazing and well put-together. The PF Laser Light Show came to Columbus a couple years ago n it was one of the coolest things I had ever seen.

[gratephulphish123]

the doors are ok but jerrys never wrong, morrison really does blatantly rip off mick

[hesgone95]

I dunno, I've always like the Doors alot. They were a huge influence on my creativity throughout my teens. Jerry was entitled to his opinion, but myself, I wouldn't agree. Personally, I really liked the thin almost hollow sound of the Doors. IMHO it fit with Morrison's lyrics....just my 2 cents.

[ebick]

Jerry said he was into Elvis Costello which surpised me. I like Costello too and the opened me up to listening.

I first saw Elvis on SNL when My Aim Is True came out. I thought, " what is up with this dude". Shortly there after, My uncle gave me My Aim Is True for my Birthday. He said, "You probably haven't heard this guy, but I think you'll like him. I promptly traded the album. Since then, I have re-bought that album on both vinyl and CD. Fuckin' great album. I also highly reccomend Armed Forces.

They also fell out with Zappa at some point

I'm not sure of the actual story, but I do find it very interesting, (being very into Zappa) that he never took any shots at the Dead (that I'm aware of), being that he was so against drugs. He did, however, take some shots at Dead Heads. It's almost like a statement of respect for the music even though he didn't agree with the culture.

[amyjared]

I too saw Elvis on SNL and was kinda interested. I always liked things odd. I saw them on the first tour and while I was a deadhead, I still went to other shows (probably part of the definition of a deadhead, actually) and one I ended up going to was Elvis at Duke in NC. A screen came down and he picked up a book and read a poem by Brautigan called "The Day they Busted the Grateful Dead" and then launched into the ship of fools/must've been the roses/ship of fools thing. I was in awe. It was the best Elvis show, he had this wheel of songs with him, dancing girl go-go cages, the whole works. This was way before the tribute album so it was totally new to me. Hadn't thought of it in years until I read this thread. I also have a bootleg of Jerry playing with Elvis at Sweetwaters in Ca. Good show.

As for Floyd, Zappa and the Doors, I love em all, but never saw the Doors. As far as I could find, it's the only mention Jerry had of them and it could have been a one-shot, pissed off mood kind of thing that he regretted or it could have been what he thought. Doesn't sway me in the least. Just my two cents.

I first saw Elvis on SNL when My Aim Is True came out.

[xonix]

I can certainly see why Jerry isn't impressed by them. I think it's more to do with their hype and attention that has surrounded them, i.e. as he says they are a typical image over substance band. Their music is okay, they have a few cool songs, but there isn't nearly enough there to support all the fame and attention Jim Morrison has received. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of filler on all their albums...

[d-v-s]

you gotta credit Jerry for stating it as it is, or as it was. The Doors were definitely a show, "just surface, no substance." On the other hand, they were a pretty successful show. You gotta credit the band for being as successful as they were with the talent that they had. They made some great music, even without a bass player, and they put on a helluva stage show, even if it was all a sham. That's what entertainment is all about!

ROCK & ROLL!

I like the Doors, but I don't compare them with groups like the Dead, Cream or Hendix's bands.

[willmusic]

Jerry's quip on the Doors was more along the lines of:

A typical LA Band, all image over substance.

Plus he didn't like it that they had no bass player. He's entitled to his opinions. Though very rare to come across a Jerry quote that doesn't praise someone.

They also fell out with Zappa at some point, the Dead had a space to practice in near something to do with Zappa and Ole Frank complained about the noise. Or something to that effect!!

I think Rock Scully tells that story...so

The thing with Zappa occurred during the first week that the GD ever played the east coast from June 1st through the 11th 1967. From 6/6 through 6/11, they played a run at the Cafe au Go Go with Luke and the Apostles, the first night being the first documented live version of Alligator. Anyhow, it was that week that Zappa was playing upstairs and on either the second or third night the Dead played too loud for ol' Frank. It wasn't wicked serious or anything but it was enough for us to still be talking about it.

[acidrain30005]

I don't mind the Doors but I do think that at least Morrison had a bit of an ego. Nonetheless, he did write some pretty good lyrics in his brief tenure on this Earth. As for Floyd, I love 'em! I saw Roger Waters on his Dark Side of the Moon tour in May and I was quite pleasantly surprised. If I'm never going to be able to see the real Pink Floyd I will be pleased with seeing Waters. I've always wondered what it would be like if the Dead and the Floyd collaborated together. But Pink Floyd is more of a studio band as opposed to the Dead being primarily a live band. Still, it would be pretty cool to have that team-up of amazing talent!

[zoppenheimer]

Maybe it's just me but I definately hear bass in what I've listened to from the doors, but then again, I've never heard any of their live stuff, so it's probably just a session bassist or something. As said before, they have a few good songs (riders on the storm, light my fire...) but I've never gotten that into them.

Also, to oppose what acidrain said, Pink Floyd was definately a live band (check out Pulse), they just weren't as exploratory musically on stage as the dead were, and I think that their studio stuff goes best by itself because the concept gets ruined when the songs are broken up.

[jahozer]

I would have loved to have seen Floyd so much. The act is so fucking amazing and well put-together. The PF Laser Light Show came to Columbus a couple years ago n it was one of the coolest things I had ever seen.

Ya know, I saw Floyd at jfk in Philly in 89. It was freakin incredible.
Then at the meadowlands, Nassau Col. (when they filmed Delicate sound of Thunder...Im in it!) and then at Veterans Std. in 93 or 94. I then saw the Dead a few days later at Giants Std. The dead had new lights. I coulda swore they bought the stuff from Floyd. Anyway, the Deads lightshow was actually BETTER! Believe it or not, it was trippier and just more asthetically pleasing. Floyd actually started getting on my nerves in that they would try too hard to bug you out. At one point worms were crawling accross the screen. I just dont need to see that while I am tripping. The Dead kinda took it easy on you in that respect. Space could get pretty creepy and all, but it was never gross shit. Floyd sometimes was like if you were tripping and someone you were with was not, but kept waving their hands in your face going "Arrre you triiiippppinggg maaaan???? Huhhhhh????? ooooohwoooooo.
Oh and an interview from some magazine said Jerry liked Janes addiction and the Clash. Bruce Cockburn, too. And Micky said they loved Saturday Night Fever and the BeeGees at the time they were making go to heaven.