[shakedown_04092]

Since we're already off-topic, did Phish ever cover Dead-tunes
or tunes that the Dead themselves covered?

Phish did cover Eyes of the World, Bertha, a St. Stephen "Jam", Other One, Help > Slipknot, Scarlet Begonias, and Fire on the Mountain (not necessarily Scarlet > Fire every time) back in the day, but stopped playing that shit by '87, I think....if not earlier.

They also covered Quinn The Eskimo, NFA, Revolution, WDWDIITR, and Midnight Hour, which the Dead did for covers, but Quinn was the only one Phish did mor ethan a handful of times.

[BlobWeird]

Phish also do a nice Shakedown Street

[shakedown_04092]

Phish also do a nice Shakedown Street

When did they play Shakedown? I know they played Terrapin on Jerry's d-day @ Hampton in '98 for the encore, but have never heard them doing Shakedown....

[smile_smile_smile]

stop talking about phish...who cares, go on a phish board for that phuckin shit

[gratephulphish123]

i never heard phish per se do shakedown but the warfield shows trey and paige did with phil the shakedown was lame, the dead used shakedown as a really groovy song, the phil version got bogged down in space... like every song in those shows

[BlobWeird]

downloaded it from Limewire a long time ago and it didnt have a date. Cant find it anymore though. But I remember it being pretty good.

[confusions_prince]

This discussion is pretty crushing. It never ocurred to me that it was overdubbed.

[bodiddley]

Ya, sometimes it's hard to accept that our beloved,"Warts and all" band wore makeup from time to time.

[BlobWeird]

eh Doesnt really bother me in the least bit. Im not a big fan of the album actually. Its too perfect and doesnt sound live enough. Although Tennessee Jed is another thing altogether. Favorite jam of that one by far. Ramble on rose is nice too. Morning dew is ok. The rest I can care less about.

[BuddhaG]

yeah i found it hard to believe as well... but i guess at that point in time (1972) they were still trying to make an album that would actually sell in the record stores. so i guess you could think of the over-dubs as an effort to break into the market some more. pressure of the music business - record oriented.

[bodiddley]

I still love that album anyway. Freakin' Cumberland rocks balls!

[smile_smile_smile]

hell yea

[Shaggy]

Sometimes I lean to the opinion similar to Hunter's, that he would have liked to have seen them take all the new songs from the 71-72 period and put them into two or a double studio album. I believe if done right it could have eclipsed the two studio classics of 1970. The material was certainly there. But as it was the material filtered through Garcia's solo album, Weir's Ace and the Europe album.

Come 73 and the Wake of the Flood songs and Pigpens death and Keith to the fore you are quickly into another era.

[confusions_prince]

I think using only the liner notes for the album, Deadbase, etree, and Archive, we can put together an unaltered Europe '72 disc. Make comparisons easier for sure. Weekend project, anyone?

I know that I have the "Sugar Magnolia" on a bootleg because the last notes from "Dark Star" are very memorable... Probably have more of the songs or can get easy access to them...

[d-v-s]

i bought this album about 6 months back and was really impressed with it. It's still one of the 6 discs in my car - but this is because my wife doesn't like the dead and about 5 minutes into any jam she gets turned off and starts in about changing the music. Since all the jams on Eur '72 are about 5 minutes, she doesn't get bored and I don't have to listen to Madonna or U2

However, when I'm alone and I want to jam out to the dead, Europe '72 is not the album I reach for. As mentioned, it's too polished. It might as well be a studio album. All the solos are short and sweet, and all the notes seem to be in the right places, at the right pitch, like it's been practiced this way a million times. even the singing is, dare I say, great , but there's no feel of the improv that made the Dead great.

That said, I still think it's a great album, and as stated Cumberland rocks, as does Tenessee Jed and Ramble on Rose. This was the first time I heard Jack Straw (really heard it), and it quickly became a favorite tune.