#151782  by dalilotmane
 
I am relatively new to Grateful Dead but Ive already found myself obsessed with all the music and information I can get my hands on and sift through. I just read "Living With the Dead," the Rock Scully memoir And wanted to get one of the band member's books. I only want to buy one for now so if anybody here has read either or both of Lesh's or Kreutzmann's books and found one to be more engrossing or for any reason more worthy of my immediate purchase it'd be cool to get some insight. I'll read both eventually but which of the two is more essential/informative in your experience?
 #151783  by playingdead
 
If you haven't read it yet, "Dark Star: An Oral Biography of Jerry Garcia" is the most absorbing and informative look at Garcia and the Grateful Dead out there, in my opinion.

It is a chronological narrative stretching from Garcia's youth (from his brother, Tiff, and high school friend Laird Grant) to his time in the Army to before the Dead, the formation of the Dead and the ensuing years. Along the way you get accounts from Owsley, Rock Scully, Ron Rakow, managers Richard Loren, John McIntire and Chesley Milliken, band attorney Hal Kant, wives Sarah and Mountain Girl, numerous other Garcia girlfriends (Barbara Meire, Manasha Garcia), Grateful Dead office staff and longtime fans (Sue Stephens), musicians (Donna Godchaux, Merle Saunders, David Nelson, Jorma, Marmaduke, David Grisman), Garcia's doctors, promoters, production managers, his personal managers (Vince and Gloria Dibiase), Ken Kesey, John Barlow, David Gutierrez, Justin Kreutzmann, the list goes on. No author chiming in to pull it all together, just strings of direct quotes from the people who knew him, arranged by date. From Tiff chopping off his finger all the way through to the accounts from the people who were at his funeral.

It is a pretty riveting read, and it gets, as Garcia's life did, very dark toward the end. You come to the conclusion that he was a mystery to everyone, including himself. Every Deadhead should read this book. It really shows how the band evolved from a bunch of misfits into a huge organization that promoted light from the audience even as it grew more dark and twisted and dangerous within.

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http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Star-Biograp ... 0061715727

Dennis McNally's "Long Strange Trip" is the most exhaustively detailed look at the band, although it is much more detailed and focused on the early years and the social aspects of the Deadheads. Blair Jackson's "Garcia: An American Life" did not tell me much I did not know before.

Scully's book is entertaining but very little of it seems to be based in fact, it's riddled with errors and inconsistencies.

Phil's book is interesting, but somewhat light on the details and more of Phil's life anecdotes, it comes across as a bit brief.

Have not read Billy's book. I have read Steve Parish's "Home Before Daylight" which was okay, but also fairly short and not a lot of insight to be found.
 #151788  by milobender
 
I've ended up reading all of them... I really liked Billy's book, and would highly recommend it; no frills, great to hear his point of view (his being my favorite drummer bar none "o)
 #151793  by dalilotmane
 
Since I had old iTunes gift cards to burn I went with Kreutzmann's audio book. The tone is super conversational so as an audiobook I've found it super engaging to listen to which is defiantly a plus... I know I will get around to all of them but "dark star" sounds like the general consensus for next on my grateful dead reading docket.
 #151796  by Jimaroe
 
I've read Lesh's book and I have a copy of Billy's book that I just haven't found time to read, yet. Parrish's book was good, too. After reading Vic's take on Dark Star, my interest has been piqued to check that one out. Of note, Barnes and Noble has a signed copy of "Deal" Kruetzmann's book, for 19.99 if anybody's interested.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/deal-bi ... 1250077226

Jim
 #151805  by zambiland
 
milobender wrote:I'm reading Rosie McGee's new book 'Dancing With the Dead' right now, and really enjoying it.
This is a great book!

Billy's book gets my vote for the first one to check out, but hit up a library, they might have some or all of the above!

Libraries are the best. After all, look what they did for Casady growing up!
 #151811  by lightningbolt
 
I have read most of them.

I vote for Billy's book if you are looking for an inside view memoir. It's a fun read and it's nice to hear the prospective of looking at the back of the amps.

If you are looking for deep band history then I would go with McNally's book.
 #151812  by zambiland
 
lightningbolt wrote:I have read most of them.

I vote for Billy's book if you are looking for an inside view memoir. It's a fun read and it's nice to hear the prospective of looking at the back of the amps.

If you are looking for deep band history then I would go with McNally's book.
I have to say that I found that Billy's perspective on the 80s and 90s in terms of band interaction confirmed what I suspected at the time. It reinforces my notion that a 2 or 3 year hiatus in the early 80s would have resulted in more longevity for Garcia and the band.

Don't let the pressures in your life drive you into an early grave!

No matter which book you choose, we all know how it ends. It's tragic because it just didn't have to be.
 #151815  by aiq
 
Seems we do end up reading all of them sooner or later. Great recommendations above.

I am reading This Is All A Dream We Dreamed: Oral history of the Grateful Dead. Interesting to hear Garcia describe my first show as a bummer...there was serious police overreach. Atlanta, 11/11/71. A couple of weeks after Duane Allman's death. That show may have been a cop hassle but it sure went a long way towards healing the pain over DAs death.

I like all of them in one way or another but like Gregg Allman's and Graham Nash's Billy's seems to have a bit of sleaze factor I can do without. I mean, in those days we all did mountains of drugs and sex was pretty easy. So, what's the big deal?

Phil's book was most of the high road. Sure wish he and Kimock were working together.
 #151821  by zambiland
 
aiq wrote:
I like all of them in one way or another but like Gregg Allman's and Graham Nash's Billy's seems to have a bit of sleaze factor I can do without. I mean, in those days we all did mountains of drugs and sex was pretty easy. So, what's the big deal?
I thought that Gregg's comments about Jerry and the Dead were uncalled for. It just seemed like macho posturing. The Allman Bros. coasted on doing the same thing for 40 years. The GD constantly evolved and they had the graciousness not be competitive with the Allman's but supportive.

He also lost quite a bit of his reputation from his service as a narc.

https://archive.org/post/424586/the-grateful-dead-waltz