#143013  by hippieguy1954
 
Lephty wrote:
hippieguy1954 wrote: A quick google search and I found this: "Both of the Music Man Silhouette Special pickup arrangements include an active noise cancellation circuit". So, there ya go. That is what your battery is for.
http://www.strat-talk.com/forum/stratoc ... ecial.html
So then do I understand that this is different from an onboard buffer/preamp?
(Sorry...as you can see, I don't know jack about this stuff).
That is correct. It is totally different than a preamp/buffer. It's the Music Man "Silent Circuit". It is a "dummy coil" used to hum cancel single coil pickups.
http://forums.ernieball.com/music-man-g ... rcuit.html
http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/show ... ent-Circut
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 #143014  by hippieguy1954
 
Here is the preamp/buffer made by Mike Wald (aka Waldo). It's the best one (IMHO) and many use it and love it. Check it out.
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You can get the details etc here: http://www.wald-electronics.com/
 #143015  by Jon S.
 
Jon S. wrote:I myself own and enjoy one or multiples of every "ingredient of the sauce" mentioned so far. I still say *start* with the easy and free or cheap ones. But that's up to you.
Hate to quote m'self but in this vein, if you can't or won't mod your guitar for an on-board buffer (your best Jerry option), the next best thing would be to try a buffer immediately after your signal leaving your guitar. There are many products you can use for this from stand-alone pedal buffers to many commonly used effect pedals where the buffer remains in the circuit even when the effect is off. You probably already own several. Here's a video to get you started.

 #143016  by Jon S.
 
E.g., I saw this one on eBay recently for $50 new: http://www.lseffects.com/--tone-messiah.html

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Or just try something like a simple Boss pedal first in your signal chain. http://www.roland.co.uk/blog/the-truth- ... ar-pedals/
 #143017  by Lephty
 
Thanks guys...very helpful stuff. The vid that Jon S posted was particularly enlightening. For $50 I may just give one of those Tone Messiahs ( :hail: ) a shot to see how it works for me.
 #143018  by aiq
 
I recently picked up a new LP with split pickups as I have been jonsing for that option for a while. Great price during the 2013/2014 dumps at GC. Sorry.

This guitar is big fun, when I use both PUs in split mode into a clean, Jerryish eq'd Fender makes a very clear tone with tight bass.
 #143023  by SarnoMusicSolutions
 
Shameless Self Promotion alert:

If you want an outboard buffer, I make two. One is 100% tube and sounds great. Lots of players use this for electric guitar, bass, and acoustic pickups.

http://www.sarnomusicsolutions.com/products/sgbb.html

I've been told that it's the best sounding buffer out there, beats the Cornish, the Sunrise, Avalon, Lehle, Xotic, and others. But it's high voltage vacuum tube with audiophile guts.

My other that has become pretty well liked as a first device on a guitar pedalboard is this one, an ultra-minimal, purist JFET follower type buffer:

http://www.sarnomusicsolutions.com/products/fl.html


But for my personal guitar, I like the onboard buffering as it completely takes cable capacitance out of the picture. If you use a really good, low-cap cable that's 7 or 8' long, that is probably the best way to use an outboard buffer with the least amount of tone loss or alteration.


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 #143034  by aiq
 
I have used the SGBB for outboard buffer to push through a pedal board and big thumbs up.

Will continue when the need arises, moved and not in a band yet, sure do miss playing and the lads.
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 #143047  by Urblues
 
Well I'm playing a 90s double fat stratocaster. I am drastically considering getting it jerrified purely from an electronic standpoint. I appreciate all of the help. The adamas picks do help but i fiddled with the 5 band eq and it helped significantly. the only problem now is that the highs are so sharp and peircing that it is almost unpleasant.
 #143048  by Jon S.
 
Urblues wrote:Well I'm playing a 90s double fat stratocaster. I am drastically considering getting it jerrified purely from an electronic standpoint. I appreciate all of the help. The adamas picks do help but i fiddled with the 5 band eq and it helped significantly. the only problem now is that the highs are so sharp and peircing that it is almost unpleasant.
Let me guess - you're under 30 and still have your high end hearing? :oops:
 #143064  by Jon S.
 
Then you're not half deaf like some of the rest of us who aren't bothered by those pesky highs because we can't even hear them anymore. :lol: