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Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:37 am
by tiffcheese
with a monitor right at your feet in front

Re: Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:57 am
by strumminsix
tiffcheese wrote:with a monitor right at your feet in front
If a monitor is directly behind a mic use a cardiod. if it's to either side the mic you can use supercardiod.

After that test out it's proximity effect

Also see how different it sounds at other angles.

Mic's are like any other instrument whereby you need time playing and experimenting.

Re: Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:38 am
by jkstraw
tiffcheese wrote:with a monitor right at your feet in front
If you are in a smaller room put a baffle of some sort on the wall behind you (to stop the sound from bouncing in to the mic). I tend to enjoy fairly high gain on my mic so I don't need to project too much - I believe Jerry was the same - it is hard to get any emotional range in your vocals if you are screaming everything :-)

Other tips...sing lots and play with the distance between you and the mic (use it to meter your volume). Mind you S's, P's and breathing too :-) Multitrack your experimenting so you know when you have good separation.

Re: Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:53 am
by strumminsix
Agree with the gain but you have to be careful with the mic you use and where you are at on stage.

I've watched MANY mics with boosted gains go high pitched on and off until the soundguy figured it out.

Gain should be set only as high as needed so your vocals don't clip and you don't feedback.

Re: Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:42 am
by tcsned
Strummin has some good advice about mic type - that's something that a lot of folks don't think about, if you place the monitor to the proper place according to mic type, you'll get much better monitor volume and tone before feedback.

It's good to have the signal as hot as possible so you can work your distance to the mic effectively - it should be hot enough that you can be up on the mic and sing without have to belt out at the top of your lungs and then find the spots as you start to belt out more. Randomly belting it out right up on the mic will likely cause the sound guy to turn down your gain or your level. Be conscious of distance v. singing volume. Varying dynamics makes you sound more polished.

Know your mic - it's always a good idea to bring your own even if someone else is running sound. Know how the tone changes as you get off axis - can be good if used consciously or bad if you do it unconsciously. Know where you need to be distance wise as you change singing volume. Know where it needs to be placed relative to your monitor. All mics are different. Also, be aware of some of the most common mics you are likely to encounter if you don't use your own. Most likely it will be Shure SM57 or SM58. Most sound companies don't shell out for condensers that some dweeb is going to think he's Roger Daltry and start swinging it around or spitting 20 beers into, etc. If they do have nice mics, learn what they are and treat them accordingly.

EQ is super important - a lot of sound guys I have encountered over EQ vocal mics erroneously thinking that when someone is asking for more volume what the really need is more definition which can be accomplished with EQ. They then crank up the gain or level and scoop out the EQ because it feeds back. This takes out a lot of the frequencies where your voice is strong and can make it harder to hear even if it's at a higher level.

Practice with a mic - I was forced to learn to sing on stage and it's still very much a work in progress - I thought I had my parts together then when you get into a mic everything sounds different. It sucked. As I got comfortable with a mic it sucked a lot less - even get some compliments :D

No fear - Go for it! You have nothing to lose. If you do you might tank it but you have a chance of nailing it. If you don't go for it you have very little chance of nailing it. You are likely a better singer than 90% of the people in a crowd, even a weak stage singer is better than drunks in the crowd. Have some attitude - don't be a dick, but have some attitude and confidence.

Remember, if your covering Dead tunes - they were a pretty inconsistent vocal group too - your not covering Pavorotti. Don't worry if it's not 100% perfect - strong finishes can make up for some early tweaks. Have a really bad short term memory - if you fuck something up, forget about it and move on. Don't let a mistake cause you to give up or to get you down.

HAVE FUN WITH IT!!!

Re: Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:22 pm
by Grant

Re: Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:35 am
by mkaufman
OMG!

Re: Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:06 am
by tcsned
Grant wrote:Don't swallow it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSZHo_hh83g
Holy crap! How the hell do you do that?

Re: Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:16 am
by keirweir
Practice with a mic - I was forced to learn to sing on stage and it's still very much a work in progress - I thought I had my parts together then when you get into a mic everything sounds different. It sucked. As I got comfortable with a mic it sucked a lot less - even get some compliments

+1

I am very much a begginer when it comes to singing. I never really worked at singing especially when it came to singing into a Mic.

I have played about 5-7 live gigs now over the course of 6-12 months and can really feel the difference after working on singing for just about a year. I actually preffer singing into a mic now!

Re: Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:44 am
by KCJones
Didn't Jim Morrison get blowjobs while in the recording booth. That seemed to help his vocal/microphone technique ..... :cheers:

Re: Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:29 am
by strumminsix
KCJones wrote:Didn't Jim Morrison get blowjobs while in the recording booth. That seemed to help his vocal/microphone technique ..... :cheers:
As the OP is a female, I think that would ruin her vocals :lol:

Re: Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:01 pm
by tiffcheese
ha ha, oh no... :lol:

Re: Any tips for singing well on a microphone?

PostPosted:Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:23 pm
by JonnyBoy
Hey Tiff,

I found a preamp to help me out tremendously, where I can control the effects mix rather than a blanket version at the board. I was able to take my gear home and play around with it. I use a Digitech VocalproIII It also has pitch correction and harmony, which the latter is cool for acoustic duos and single playing to add texture. As a band, it is more professional to use the bands voices, imo. On some songs I will add a smidge of harmony when I sing back up. But, in total, the preamp it has built in has helped me sound much better. I utilize compression, dessing, vocal type reverbs, subtle delay, parametric EQ, gain settings, and tube emulation. I have to say i am pretty happy with the contraption and use it all the time now.

All of the above is great advice, some of these guys have been playing and singing a long time. I have always seen myself as an instrumentalist and have only this year warmed up to lead and out front supporting vocals. I don't know why it has taken me so long to do so, I guess I didn't want to learn or didn't have the guts. like Tcsned said it is really important to "own" the role and make it sound like you meant it to sound that way always, don't sweat the small stuff. :smile: