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Sarno SMS Classic JG

PostPosted:Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:25 pm
by 8-6-71 for me
Has anyone swapped out the tubes, and if so did it make a discernible difference?

Re: Sarno SMS Classic JG

PostPosted:Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:46 pm
by Jon S.
I never especially liked how the stock V1 tube sounded. Don't get me wrong, it was OK, but I'm shooting for blows me away. I keep a small stash of replacement preamp tubes on hand, both NOS and new build. After much experimenting, I went with an NOS Raytheon 5751 and upped the gain control correspondingly from 5 to 6. As always, of course, it's a personal decision and YMMV.

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Re: Sarno SMS Classic JG

PostPosted:Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:05 pm
by wpmartin1979
8-6-71 for me wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:25 pm Has anyone swapped out the tubes, and if so did it make a discernible difference?
Swapping with a NOS RCA, Raytheon or Tung Sol USA will always make a huge difference. I have been liking the long plates lately, but like Jon says, it’s just a matter of taste. You will hear a big difference though IMHO.
I don’t have an SMS JG but I swapped out the tubes in my other preamps (Shiftline, blackbird, blue tube) and made a huge difference.

Re: Sarno SMS Classic JG

PostPosted:Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:10 pm
by wpmartin1979
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Re: Sarno SMS Classic JG

PostPosted:Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:47 pm
by 8-6-71 for me
The RCA tubes blew me away. Now it sounds and feels like a Twin pre.

From brittle to brilliant. Thanks for the advice, guys.

Re: Sarno SMS Classic JG

PostPosted:Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:29 am
by NSP
8-6-71 for me wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:47 pm The RCA tubes blew me away. Now it sounds and feels like a Twin pre.

From brittle to brilliant. Thanks for the advice, guys.
Where did you source them?

Re: Sarno SMS Classic JG

PostPosted:Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:07 am
by 8-6-71 for me
NSP wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:29 am
8-6-71 for me wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:47 pm The RCA tubes blew me away. Now it sounds and feels like a Twin pre.

From brittle to brilliant. Thanks for the advice, guys.
Where did you source them?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-RCA-12AX7A ... 2749.l2649

Re: Sarno SMS Classic JG

PostPosted:Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:48 am
by Smolder
Comparisons are hard for me. For an important fender (ish) amp, I just automatically dig through the pile and find the best RCA or GE preamp tubes and go.