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I've been reading different topics here about Jerry's "Bee's in a Box" tone. What pedal was this, and can you give me any examples to go listen to for it?

Been listening to Jerry and the Dead for over 20 years now, but just in the past few been reading up on his gear and how he got the tones he did.

Sorry if this has been discussed, did a search and couldn't find anything. Thanks in advance!

You might enjoy these threads. And you know me from TGP:

https://www.rukind.com/viewtopic.php?t=18349

viewtopic.php?f=419&t=18527

Jon S. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:49 pm You might enjoy these threads. And you know me from TGP:

https://www.rukind.com/viewtopic.php?t=18349

viewtopic.php?f=419&t=18527

Thanks Jon!

Is it the same as the Sarno Solar Flare?

Does anyone have any examples of this tone? What songs, shows? I'm sure once I hear it I'll know what everyone is talking about. I just keep hearing that term and I'd like to know what it is they're talking about

I’m not sure, but sounds like you’re describing something like the opening note(s) to Morning Dew 5/8/77.

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977 ... rce=203420

I'm not familiar with the term, but I would think it's more akin to heavy distortion, like Hell in a Bucket.

wabisabied wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:34 pmMorning Dew 5/8/77.

I was at that show!

Basically any Samson from 1979. Try Cape Cod from October.

Jon S. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:04 pm

wabisabied wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:34 pmMorning Dew 5/8/77.

I was at that show!

Awesome! I got into the Dead late '94/early '95. A bunch of friends got tickets to see them, couldn't convince my parents to let me go, turned out to be Jerry's last show

Jon S. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:04 pm

wabisabied wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:34 pmMorning Dew 5/8/77.

I was at that show!

Lucky bastich! It was my first tape when I got turned on in the mid-80s, and essentially opened my mind to what the band was about. Prior to that I’d mostly just heard Casey Jones on the radio.

That opening note to Dew is burned in my brain forever.

Jon S. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:04 pm

wabisabied wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:34 pmMorning Dew 5/8/77.

I was at that show!

Are you sure you weren't the victim of mass hypnosis?

... there are stories ...

Bill, tgo

lbpesq wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:24 pm

Jon S. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:04 pm

wabisabied wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:34 pmMorning Dew 5/8/77.

I was at that show!

Are you sure you weren't the victim of mass hypnosis?

... there are stories ...

Bill, tgo

Considering my situation in '77 ↓ , who the f- knows!

Jon S. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:04 pm

wabisabied wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:34 pmMorning Dew 5/8/77.

I was at that show!

Hey- did you see my wife??!!

OMG - that was your wife?!

Keeding. But it's possible our paths crossed. Barton Hall was a relatively small venue as Dead shows go.

I went to several Barton Hall shows because I was just down the road in college at SUNY-Binghamton. Excellent venue.

Interestingly, at the time, I had no idea the May 8, '77 show would become considered among the Dead's most classic shows.

The Barton Hall show that most left me with my jaw scraping the ground was ELP on January 30, 1978.