I've been poking around, and I can't seem to find a reference for the model of envelope filter Bob used with the GD like in this 'Music Never Stopped' circa '91. Anyone have any thoughts/ideas?
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:59 pm
by schmidtz
Perhaps this image will sate you, taken in the early 90's (it's an Ibanez AF-9, they're sweet)
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:03 pm
by flyingheelhook
cool! Thanks bro!
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:54 pm
by TI4-1009
I wish Billy would stop looking at me like that, it's giving me the creeps...
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:25 pm
by tatittle
I'd rather have Billy look at me as above than be the SDS member at the end of this glare!
Bobby destroyed that version! Ouch!! You can hear a stubborn frustration goin on in his playing. Maybe just totally sick of playing these tunes, but man. That was a downer!
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:27 am
by aiq
SDS member?
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:44 pm
by tatittle
Students for a Democratic Society. It became progressively more radical to the extent that some leaders branched off into bombings etc. in effort to instigate a political revolution...vs. a spiritual or consciousness revolution that others of the era prioritized.
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:39 pm
by Searing75
So you are saying Bobby was intentionally playing in an obtuse style to the rest of the band, and with a terrible sounding effect/tone, in order to break out of the Grateful Deads musical status quo?
He is instigating a train wreck!
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:47 pm
by mkaufman
Pretty good pic showing settings for several pieces of gear.
In the early 80's, I think he front-ended the AF9 with a TS9. In this pic, it looks like the TS9 has been replaced with a Boss pedal, and I'm not sure which comes first. I don't think his single coils could push the AF9 adequately so he needed the boost.
mk
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:13 pm
by CountryMile Cadillac
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:38 pm
by brbadg
Yea this one gets it.Probably gonna have something for 2015
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:50 am
by pablomago
Maxon/Ibanez licensed the circuit from MuTron for the AF-9. It runs on 9V rather then 18V. A friend has a MuTron and I have a Maxon. I've tried them side by side and they are damn close.
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:10 pm
by mkaufman
Looks like the Boss is after the AF9.
mk
Re: Bob Weir's choice of Envelope Filter?
PostPosted:Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:43 pm
by aiq
tatittle wrote:Students for a Democratic Society. It became progressively more radical to the extent that some leaders branched off into bombings etc. in effort to instigate a political revolution...vs. a spiritual or consciousness revolution that others of the era prioritized.
SDS was certainly confrontational but I would say the SDS breakaway, Weather Underground, were advocating for upping the violence quotient.