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In place of the Gm9 I'll take a BbM7, as long as the bass and/or keyboard play G there.

And I'll stick with 1,2,3and's for the bridge Em & C. The 3-4 works OK but not as gracefully imo. But I'm relieved for awhile there, I had read these posts as saying 4-3, which is FUBAR.

And how about the little chromatic lick Jerry plays over the end of the first line in each verse- is that priceless or what??

tigerstrat wrote:And I'll stick with 1,2,3and's for the bridge Em & C. The 3-4 works OK but not as gracefully imo.

TS - it IS 3-4. That's as graceful as it gets. It's what Weir, Phil & Keith all play. Jerry fanning over it may be what is causing your confusion. Grab a different version (or a couple of 'em, that's what I did...it will help). The count is 100% 3-4. There's no halves about it.
You may have one where they just fucked it up (it DID happen ever now & again!! ) Anyhooo - just check it out. You'll see Pete was correct.

What is the cord played at the end of this line?

But you really get me hi-iiigh. ???

Pete B. wrote:What is the cord played at the end of this line?

But you really get me hi-iiigh. ???

D7 to Am then D7 to Fmaj7



Still waiting on "keep on trying but I"...

I just play a D7....I think that D - Am - D - Fmaj7 may work, but you'll notice no one is playing chords behind that (Supplication riff). It's Phil with the drummers. You just hang on a D7, then the lead player comes in noodling in D.

The "I keep on trying but I..." seems like it starts on an Em7 the first half, then goes to G the 2nd half.

O.K here's what I've got going so far on this one...

The intro, etc, is based on listing from this Live version:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-1 ... eok.flac16

These are just some of my current thoughts on the tune. I'll try to get an up-to-speed version posted later.
~pb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbEJWfrEv2k[/youtube]

Pete,

If you listen to the 76' rehearsals on LMA you can clearly hear Jerry do the intro line with a simple Cmaj7 arpeggio and G arpeggio. He starts the line on the low E string, 7th fret (C), he grabs the G major arpeggio from the A string 10th fret. That D hang note that you're playing at the 10th fret, high E string with your pinky before resolving to the Fmaj7, that wouldn't be correct for the 76-77 versions. Jerry does end up on a D but it's the G string, 7th fret after fleshing out a piano style G major arpeggio noted above....

I made a version specific edit to the yt above (I just assumed eveybody knew the "normal" way to play it ).

I know, the Boys play it alot of different ways on the many versions i've listened to.
I have at least 3 ways to play the intro worked up.
There are a lot of cool licks and chordal jams in this one.
I'm in the process of playing along with a drum track set to 7/4 (using a digitech jamMan).
Repatition training, if you will (for vocal, too).
As they say...
Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time!

Pete B. wrote:I made a version specific edit to the yt above (I just assumed eveybody knew the "normal" way to play it ).

I know, the Boys play it alot of different ways on the many versions i've listened to.
I have at least 3 ways to play the intro worked up.
There are a lot of cool licks and chordal jams in this one.
I'm in the process of playing along with a drum track set to 7/4 (using a digitech jamMan).
Repatition training, if you will (for vocal, too).
As they say...
Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time!

Very cool. I'm guilty of loving the earlier versions. That is a great recording though. Garcia is so upfront in the mix!

Cool vid Pete B. !

Great vid, Pete!

All I can say is thank GOODNESS for Bob Weir for writing such a kick-ass tune that is causing us such agony!!! I LOVE IT!

I wish someone KNEW Weir and could get him to get in on this thread!!! HAHA!!!

pappypgh wrote:

tigerstrat wrote:And I'll stick with 1,2,3and's for the bridge Em & C. The 3-4 works OK but not as gracefully imo.

TS - it IS 3-4. That's as graceful as it gets. It's what Weir, Phil & Keith all play. Jerry fanning over it may be what is causing your confusion. Grab a different version (or a couple of 'em, that's what I did...it will help). The count is 100% 3-4. There's no halves about it.
You may have one where they just fucked it up (it DID happen ever now & again!! ) Anyhooo - just check it out. You'll see Pete was correct.

I guess you guys are right about that count. It's often easier to play instinctively through a rhythm than to count it out accurately, especially a syncopated one in an odd siggy. I think you are probably right about my focus on Garcia's non-chordal part smearing my perception a little bit; however he wasn't so much fanning through the change in my referenced version (2/26/81, not F'd-up by any stretch), but arpeggiating through it.

Gm9

tigerstrat wrote:I think you are probably right about my focus on Garcia's non-chordal part smearing my perception a little bit; however he wasn't so much fanning through the change in my referenced version (2/26/81, not F'd-up by any stretch), but arpeggiating through it.

One man's fanning is another man's arpeggiating!

BTW - There is NO Lazy Lightning on 2/26/81! What are you talkin' about?! I have a GREAT copy of that show...Chicago, Uptown Theater. Good Althea! Good Truckin'! No Lazy Lightning.

Small world Pappy - I was just thinking "What Good shit can I send to Pappy ?".
How bout Uptown Theater run - 2/26/81,2/28/81,2/29/81.
There is no L Lightening either.