Grateful Dead Music Forum

zoppenheimer wrote:Maybe it's just me but I definately hear bass in what I've listened to from the doors, but then again, I've never heard any of their live stuff, so it's probably just a session bassist or something. As said before, they have a few good songs (riders on the storm, light my fire...) but I've never gotten that into them.

Also, to oppose what acidrain said, Pink Floyd was definately a live band (check out Pulse), they just weren't as exploratory musically on stage as the dead were, and I think that their studio stuff goes best by itself because the concept gets ruined when the songs are broken up.

The bass is from the low notes on the keyboard. N yeah, check out ummagumma from floyd, the live album is fantastic, really showcases all the talent from the early days

Ummagumma wasn't live, was it?

zoppenheimer wrote:Ummagumma wasn't live, was it?

Ummagumma is a double album. One disc was recorded live at Mothers Club, Birmingham, on April 27, 1969 and the following week at Manchester College of Commerce, on May 2, 1969; the other included four solo segments, one half-side of vinyl each by David Gilmour, Richard Wright, Nick Mason and Roger Waters.

Wow, I never realized that. There's no applause or anything, did they just not get any of the audience on mic?

As for the Doors, there is an actual bass player on Soft Parade. Other than that, Ray Manzarek is playing a little bass keyboard---about an octave or so in length which you can usually see in pics of him playing. He is easily one of my favorite keyboardists/organists ever. Scary stoic, but a bad-ass player in my book.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. When it comes to the Doors, I have to disagree with Jerry on that one. Morrison may've been a major tool, especially when he was outta his mind on whatever he was ingesting, but IMHO, the band as a whole and their songs are time-tested genius for the most part.

I'm sure people will still be playing their music when I'm long dead.

floyd jams from what i've seen are all about gilmour, which isnt bad because gilmour kicks major ass, but i cant imagine floyd's live show being as neat or adventerous as phish or the dead in a musical sense. that and the uber depressing lyrics and songs make me shy away from em

gratephulphish123 wrote:floyd jams from what i've seen are all about gilmour, which isnt bad because gilmour kicks major ass, but i cant imagine floyd's live show being as neat or adventerous as phish or the dead in a musical sense. that and the uber depressing lyrics and songs make me shy away from em

I saw the Pink Floyd's "Pulse" tour in '94 in the old Foxboro Stadium. They were the only band I've ever seen live (including the Grateful Dead and Phish) that was able to completely fill a football stadium with sound. It was LOUD and crystal clear from the very first notes of the show (Astronomy Domine opened it up). And as far as neatness goes, easily an A+. They were ridiculously well rehearsed-- nobody missed a note, and the lights and other effects were perfectly synced with the music.

Of course, the uber-perfectionism did take away a bit from the adventure of the show, so I would agree with that point.

Still, the maxim holds--> There's nothing like a Grateful Dead Concert! (Even if you're in the upper deck at Giants' Stadium.)

There's also a studio bassist on L.A. Woman. The Doors were going to set out on a tour with him, but of course Morrison's death stopped that.