Grateful Dead Music Forum

Wow Soft machine! Like it was your job!

If you are going to do something....

Gosh it becomes more clear just how articulate Garcia was when his spontaneous solos are examined note for note...and even better proper voicings. They are better than other guys composed stuff. It can make one feel so small and hopeless , like Garcia's comment about Art Tatum humbling those that begin to think they're pretty good.

tatittle wrote:Gosh it becomes more clear just how articulate Garcia was when his spontaneous solos are examined note for note...and even better proper voicings. They are better than other guys composed stuff. It can make one feel so small and hopeless , like Garcia's comment about Art Tatum humbling those that begin to think they're pretty good.

I took a history of jazz class in college from Paul Tanner, who was the 2nd trombone in the Glenn Miller orchestra. I still remember him playing a piece off the Art Tatum album And God Was in the House, where Tatum bent a note played on piano, which is technically impossible. Tanner played it back repeatedly, saying "I have no idea how he did that...listen to that again." I feel the same way every so often listening to some Jerry riffs.

" solo jazz pianists like Art Tatum showed off their virtuosity, but Monk solos were more about the compositions, and making the piano hum. In that way, these pieces recall Jelly Roll Morton's 1920s solos, in tunes he'd been writing for decades that sketch the very emergence of jazz, with his expressive piano painting in the details. And Morton was clunking on adjacent keys like Monk by 1923.
On Thelonious Alone in San Francisco, Monk also plays three of his own classic ballads with minimal improvising, illustrating a few ways of framing the melody and his carefully worked-out disharmony. Monk could seemingly bend notes on piano, by striking two adjacent keys and quickly releasing one. The short note seems to slide into the held one. In "Reflections," he's very particular to bend one note in the melody every time it comes around. It's one aspect of his art in microcosm: a tiny reminder that, for all his looking back, he found new things the piano could do.
I found this in info about Monk mentioning the note bending on a piano."

There is definitely composition going on in Jerry's solos ,there are guys who just get in the pentatonic box and choose notes. Jer is not one of them.
I can't tell you how many times I will have 2 second phrase looping at 25% speed just thinking what the F is this guy doing until it just comes to me
And Transcribing john Kahn is even worse. Just listen to the outro jam of Deal and try pick out what he is playing it is very elusive.

I will have 2 second phrase looping at 25% speed

What do you use for this?

Edit: Nevermind, saw earlier post GP6.

actually I use The "amazing slow downer" by Roni . There are a lot of programs out there that will slow down music at pitch but, I have not found one that will do it with the fidelity that ASD does. The Have a video player that will do the same thing "the ultimate DVD player" well worth the investment. I slow the music down to learn it then transcribe and check the transcription by syncing the 2 together.

Sweet, thanks for following up on that!