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Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:06 am
by Pete B.
'Was listening to the E72 JS on the ride home last night. Man, who laid down those high harmonies??? Very Sweet. I know it should be Phil Lesh but it sounds more like Bobby singing high harmony to himself to me (ala studio vocal re-do's that were done).

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:49 am
by playingdead
That's Phil, but they redid a lot of the vocals (and some of the instruments) after the fact by setting up the stage again and using the same mics and multitrack recording equipment.

Although, I think if you listen to that particular Jack Straw, which I think was from 5-4-72 Olympia Theater in Paris, his vocal was right on. He was a very good harmony singer in terms of pitch, before his voice got damaged.

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:05 am
by Rusty the Scoob
playingdead wrote:That's Phil, but they redid a lot of the vocals (and some of the instruments) after the fact by setting up the stage again and using the same mics and multitrack recording equipment.

Although, I think if you listen to that particular Jack Straw, which I think was from 5-4-72 Olympia Theater in Paris, his vocal was right on. He was a very good harmony singer in terms of pitch, before his voice got damaged.
Agreed, and his blend was surprisingly good, too.

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:57 pm
by Counterstriker
Dude.. You're so goood.. have to ask you though, When you play do you try to sound like Jerry or is that your style?

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Sat May 08, 2010 7:05 pm
by mijknahs
Here's a Jack Straw that we did last month that I really enjoyed. The vocals are rough because we hadn't practiced it with our new female singer yet (and just haven't practiced it much). I though it was pretty good musically though. Just an extra song after we finished our setlist.

http://ia331225.us.archive.org/3/items/ ... kStraw.mp3

Jim

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Mon May 10, 2010 8:00 am
by bdhact1
Very difficult song to play correctly. Takes a major team effort to get it right. If one part is off it really stands out.

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Mon May 10, 2010 8:10 am
by keirweir
though it was pretty good musically though. Just an extra song after we finished our setlist.
http://ia331225.us.archive.org/3/items/ ... kStraw.mp3

Jim


Hell yeah Jim.. Thats totally my style jack straw... Balls to the wall

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Mon May 10, 2010 9:07 am
by mijknahs
Thanks Keir!

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Mon May 10, 2010 10:29 am
by Grateful Dad
A bass players favorite bombs to drop:

1. The E chord during the hyper D-Bm-A-E Jack Straw jam and second refrain. 8)
2. The Other One. :shock:
3. Morning Dew during solo one and two. :P
4. Terrapin's D to A on the word's "....Terrapin Sta-tion" :D
5. Truckin's outo jam when it builds to the E bomb. :shock:

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Mon May 10, 2010 11:13 am
by Rusty the Scoob
Grateful Dad wrote:A bass players favorite bombs to drop:

1. The E chord during the hyper D-Bm-A-E Jack Straw jam and second refrain. 8)
2. The Other One. :shock:
3. Morning Dew during solo one and two. :P
4. Terrapin's D to A on the word's "....Terrapin Sta-tion" :D
5. Truckin's outo jam when it builds to the E bomb. :shock:
Awesome list! West LA has some good ones, too... I like to drop them 70's style. Bertha Bombs are fun but you're stuck dropping them when Bobby decides. Miracle has great bombs. Birdsong has some great "gentle" bombs... if there is such a thing. :lol:

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Mon May 10, 2010 11:26 am
by jester536
"gentle bombs"...I think we've found a new oxymoron. But perhaps I'm the only one loving this...will this be followed by a deafening silence???

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Mon May 10, 2010 11:28 am
by mijknahs
jester536 wrote:"gentle bombs"...I think we've found a new oxymoron. But perhaps I'm the only one loving this...will this be followed by a deafening silence???
Kinda like "set for stun" instead of "set for kill"?

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Mon May 10, 2010 1:44 pm
by Grateful Dad
Rusty the Scoob wrote:
Grateful Dad wrote:A bass players favorite bombs to drop:

1. The E chord during the hyper D-Bm-A-E Jack Straw jam and second refrain. 8)
2. The Other One. :shock:
3. Morning Dew during solo one and two. :P
4. Terrapin's D to A on the word's "....Terrapin Sta-tion" :D
5. Truckin's outo jam when it builds to the E bomb. :shock:
Awesome list! West LA has some good ones, too... I like to drop them 70's style. Bertha Bombs are fun but you're stuck dropping them when Bobby decides. Miracle has great bombs. Birdsong has some great "gentle" bombs... if there is such a thing. :lol:
I must be old....how could I fail to mention the rowdy Bertha bomb?

Right after..."throw me in the jailhouse, BOOM!! (low C on the B string, 18" subwoofers move the air, but I digress)

The crowd goes:

:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
:P :P :P :P :P : :D :P :P :P :P :P :P
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Mon May 10, 2010 1:45 pm
by Tennessee Jedi
playingdead wrote:My all time favorite Dead tune, first one I tried to learn on the guitar.

:hail: :hail: :hail:

Re: Jack Straw

PostPosted:Mon May 10, 2010 1:58 pm
by playingdead
Actually, eventually the Dead did the bombs in Bertha the same way every time:

Each verse has four lyric lines (1,2,3,4).

First time around on guitar solo:

1) no bomb
2) no bomb
3) bomb on 2
4) bomb on 3

Solo over chorus, then second time around:

1) no bomb
2) no bomb
3) bomb on 4
4) bomb on 5 (the "1" on the second measure)

Third verse:

1) no bomb
2) no bomb
3) bomb on 2
4) bomb on 4

So, it's 2-3, 4-5, 2-4. These are the little things that set apart the bands covering the Dead. It knocks me out when I see people picking up these subtleties.

We fumbled it a little bit here, but you get the idea (starts at 2:30 or so ... watch Jimbo, LOL):