[strumminsix]

Tom, that is pretty much what I had and then a little more.

For the intro I was tooling around with A, Asus2 & Asus4 in some order or another but never got it 100%

Then there are some odd timings and some changes are on the upbeat and others on the downbeat especially confusing in the bridge.

I couldn't find a spot for any of them extra chords either.

[BlobWeird]

fwiw, Wanting to get the female vocalist into singing lead, but limiting her to songs DJ sang live with the Dead, doesn't leave her much wiggle room.
Did DJ sing and lead vox with JGB?

She has. Not sure how many times. She wasnt a regular member or anything but yeah I know she has.

[Pete B.]

We plan on getting our female singer involved with some lead vocals...

Garcia produced Jefferson Airplane's second album, Surrealistic Pillow, credited as being a spiritual advisor.

Some good material there for Female vocals.

'Would love to hear you guys break out White Rabbit!

Female lead vox on Morning Dew, ala Joan Baez, would be cool, too.

[tigerstrat]

fwiw, Wanting to get the female vocalist into singing lead, but limiting her to songs DJ sang live with the Dead, doesn't leave her much wiggle room.
Did DJ sing and lead vox with JGB?

She has. Not sure how many times. She wasnt a regular member or anything but yeah I know she has.

Donna Jean certainly was a regular member of JGB, from early 76 to late 78.

Hey Pete, we definitely are not restricting Keesha to only singing leads on Donna numbers... it's just taking a little coaxing to get her to do any leads, and I'm hoping SR will grease her wheels a bit. I could see JA songs, but I don't feel a particular need to be restricted to 60's Bay Area bands in that regard either... ultimately I'd like her to come up with her own ideas.

I did some more tweaking last night... the coda part is deceptively difficult!

[astroman99]

Yeah, push her to sing more, am I the only person who liked Joan Osbourne's take on Jerry tunes?
I liked her soulful, playful feel for the tunes?

[Pete B.]

Oh, I thought it was the other way around... like she has a list of tunes she's been singing for years, but like maybe they didn't fit the GD tribute guide-lines, so-to-speak.
So she is brand new to lead vox?
SR is all over the map vocally as well as instrumentally. Might be a harsh toke for her first time out of the gate.
Has she put forth any song ideas of her own yet?
Aiko is simple enough vocally, (what was that female vocal group that had some airplay with it)?
Maybe some Etta James blues number?
fwiw. most every female vocalist I've ever met has gone throught he Silver Threads right of passage.

[BlobWeird]

[Donna Jean certainly was a regular member of JGB, from early 76 to late 78.

So thats why so many of my jgb shows from that era have Donna hahahah. I kinda had a sneaking suspicion she was part of the group at that point but I coulda swore I heard somewhere she just sat in alot. But Ok cool ty for clearin that up.

[strumminsix]

am I the only person who liked Joan Osbourne's take on Jerry tunes?

IMO, YES.

I hate Joan she ruined songs, shows, vibe, etc.

She didn't know the timing of the tunes.

She didn't know the lyrics of the tunes.

She forced the band to play out with a small selection of tunes.

She reinvented the emotion of the tunes erroneously.

Oh, she ruined it for me.

Caught them twice with her: Chicago & NYE @ Oakland.

She bored me and made me dislike some of my favs.

[ronster]

I got it. Never played it so I can't comment on it. Donna G wrote the lyrics and music. Always enjoyed this tune back in the day at shows. Just assumed Hunter wrote the lyrics.
Intro:

Code: Select all

Am / D / Am / D F  G 

Verse 
Am                 D    F              E Am E7 
Gazing at the fire,     burning by the wa-ter 
Am Am/G   D          F      G        Am Am/G 
Before he speaks the world around us quiets.
Esus4 F G 
Am                          Dsus4 D F                   E Am E7 
With eyes as sharp as arrows,       and turning to the fire 
Am           D          Am Am/G 
He clear the air with a feather.
Em F G  A  G  A  G  A 

VERSE 2:
Many in a circle, slowly round the fire.  When he is gone I want to know him better
No one is foresaken, no one is a liar.  He plants the tree of life on our foreheads with water

BRIDGE:
Bb       Bb7sus4          G7 G7+9     C     F 
He hums, there are drums, four winds, rising suns, 
Am     Am/G    Fmaj7  D7 
We are singing   and playing. 
F  C   F     G   A    G  A  A(no3)                
I hear what he's saying.

ENDING
Am  Am/G Em           F         Am Am/G F/G  Em D  
Breezes  from winds inside your body    keep me high.
       Am    Am/G    Em   F         Am  Am/G F/G  E  D
Like I told you I'll sing them this story    and know why

[tigerstrat]

I got it. Never played it so I can't comment on it. Donna G wrote the lyrics and music. Always enjoyed this tune back in the day at shows. Just assumed Hunter wrote the lyrics.
Intro:

Code: Select all

Am / D / Am / D F  G 

Verse 
Am                 D    F              E Am E7 
Gazing at the fire,     burning by the wa-ter 
Am Am/G   D          F      G        Am Am/G 
Before he speaks the world around us quiets.
Esus4 F G 
Am                          Dsus4 D F                   E Am E7 
With eyes as sharp as arrows,       and turning to the fire 
Am           D          Am Am/G 
He clear the air with a feather.
Em F G  A  G  A  G  A 

VERSE 2:
Many in a circle, slowly round the fire.  When he is gone I want to know him better
No one is foresaken, no one is a liar.  He plants the tree of life on our foreheads with water

BRIDGE:
Bb       Bb7sus4          G7 G7+9     C     F 
He hums, there are drums, four winds, rising suns, 
Am     Am/G    Fmaj7  D7 
We are singing   and playing. 
F  C   F     G   A    G  A  A(no3)                
I hear what he's saying.

ENDING
Am  Am/G Em           F         Am Am/G F/G  Em D  
Breezes  from winds inside your body    keep me high.
       Am    Am/G    Em   F         Am  Am/G F/G  E  D
Like I told you I'll sing them this story    and know why

cool, thanks Ron!

And there's those "extra parts" from the engine rebuild. I guess I didn't get it so horribly wrong... Am E7 instead of F G for the verse- that sounds like it would work, kinda the difference between Dire Wolf's Verse 1&2 vs. Verse 3&4...

[Pete B.]

Hey Pete, we definitely are not restricting Keesha to only singing leads on Donna numbers...
...I don't feel a particular need to be restricted to 60's Bay Area bands in that regard either...

I just listened to Sunrise, Rain (from Cats Down Under), and From The Heart Of Me.

Donna did a good job on her Studio vocals.
I think all three would not only be hard for a band to learn and play/sing fluently in a live setting, but I don't have high confidence in them with regard to the typical audiences we see around here "embracing" them as a like a major "breakout", (like when the Dead broke out a long absent jam and the crowd went nuts).

If as you say, the restrictions have been lifted, I could see the crowd packing the dance floor for a "Don't You Want Somebody To Love" or "White Rabbit" (cool guitar intro... Phrygian, I think).

But if the scope is even wider... I would definitely look for songs for her that promote a strong marrige of "able to sing fluently/strongly, and well within her vocal range" and "the crownd is gonna flip when they hear this".

I too am a fan of learning/playing complicated Dead songs, but as a local who has always supported your bands shows, maan we all know Donna has taken such a bad rap amongst Deadheads... not sure it's the right direction.
On the other hand, risk-taking is a highly coveted value.

I'm gonna go listen to a long John Kahn bass solo now. Simple Twist!

[tigerstrat]

I too am a fan of learning/playing complicated Dead songs, but as a local who has always supported your bands shows, maan we all know Donna has taken such a bad rap amongst Deadheads... not sure it's the right direction.
On the other hand, risk-taking is a highly coveted value.

I'm gonna go listen to a long John Kahn bass solo now. Simple Twist!

Donna may have taken a bad rap among some... but Keesha hasn't! Anyway, she wanted to do Sunrise (unlike certain other RR members who shall remain anonymous), she's totally jazzed about it actually. But WTH, the song is 3.5 minutes long.

[BlobWeird]

I said it already and ill say it again. I started listening to the Dead about 4-5 years ago and I didnt like Donna at first. Actually couldnt stand her. And now I think she's great. Was just listening to 7-8-78 at Red Rocks today with Donna in Werewolves. Great stuff at the end. "I saw a werewolf drinking a Pina Colada at Trader Vic's...Yeah?...His hair was perfect...Ooohh. Best version IMO

[krzykat]

am I the only person who liked Joan Osbourne's take on Jerry tunes?

IMO, YES.

I hate Joan she ruined songs, shows, vibe, etc.

She didn't know the timing of the tunes.

She didn't know the lyrics of the tunes.

She forced the band to play out with a small selection of tunes.

She reinvented the emotion of the tunes erroneously.

Oh, she ruined it for me.

Caught them twice with her: Chicago & NYE @ Oakland.

She bored me and made me dislike some of my favs.

You mean MOAN Osbourne. At Bethel when she sang Candtman "If I had a shotgun I'd blow you straight to hell" I started calling her a Liar, everyone around me strated cracking up.

[Pete B.]

Here's a good one to consider for a female vocal.
Cool groove. I could see Jer singing this one, putting the JGB'thang on it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEi068wMuHs