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Re: Spammers

PostPosted:Fri May 13, 2011 6:13 am
by RiverRat
Actually, the bulk of the 475 fell into 3 categories: Zombies, Sleepers and Orphans.

The Zombies are accounts registered and activated, then left to sit dormant since most sites target the recent registered bots that start spamming. Eventually, they come back and start spamming the boards. Quite often, they don't load the profile full with all the signature links UNTIL they are ready to strike.

If a Zombie if left dormant too long, or if the account gets flagged by other boards and the email hosting provider gets enough complaints, the account is abandoned once the email address is deleted from their host. Now the account is an Orphan and depending on a forum's settings, Spiders and Scrapers can still be grabbing the spam backlinks and that is what the spammers are after... It's BlackHat SEO backlinking for the purpose of gaming Search Engine relevance for the links they post. More backlinks means better search placement. The Zombies are usually activated in waves, to many non-relevant backlinks in a short period of time will adversely affect search placement. If they wait to long, the the Zombies are abandoned and orphaned.

The Sleepers are the most troubling, these are accounts that pass all the check used to verify that an account is a valid one registered by a real person that has a legitimate reason to be posting here. These accounts DON'T pass the sniff test though, they look bogus for all intents. Most likely, they are clean account used for recon, possibly by scammers and not spammer. Registered users can easily page scrape the member list to harvest email addresses and web links.

The bulk of the accounts I cleaned out were older Orphans, I cringe to think of how many accounts the admins were deleting prior to this week. It's amazing that they had any time to ever post on the forums at all! The methods I've used to test accounts has been shared with the admins, I won't share it publicly, since THE ENEMY IS LISTENING. But I will say that it's one that is geared towards 0% false positive results.

Re: Spammers

PostPosted:Fri May 13, 2011 6:21 am
by jester536
Once again...impressed with the knowledge base of this board...I don't what the heck your talking about but I'm so glad that there are people out the with the understanding of all of this and working so hard to keep this board up...and useful. Thanks so much you guys.

Re: Spammers

PostPosted:Fri May 20, 2011 10:34 am
by phpbb
I wanted to give a big thank you to RiverRat! On top of his daily work to clean up the spammer mess, his major recommendations to stop spam have been implemented, and they seem to be working. We at least have a the latest and greatest when it comes to stopping spam. Its really a great feeling knowing that we have such support from our members to keep this place awesome.

Thanks Again to RiverRat!!!

Re: Spammers

PostPosted:Fri May 20, 2011 10:38 am
by strumminsix
Here, here! THANK YOU!!!!


BTW, can non-admins see the FLAG link to the right?

Re: Spammers

PostPosted:Fri May 20, 2011 10:46 am
by mkaufman
Thanks!

Re: Spammers

PostPosted:Fri May 20, 2011 11:32 am
by RiverRat
strumminsix wrote:Here, here! THANK YOU!!!!


BTW, can non-admins see the FLAG link to the right?
Only admins see FLAG, users report posts using the same old REPORT POST icon.

Re: Spammers

PostPosted:Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:27 am
by RiverRat
jimmycbt wrote:give a solid suggestion to stop it

You mean like nuking spammers from Pakistan???

OK... Say bye bye Jimmy!

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Re: Spammers

PostPosted:Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:36 am
by vwjodyme
Nice River Rat :lol:
Just curious, any idea what he was trying to do? there were no links or anything on his posts and it did look like he was at least reading a post and leaving a snippit. Just trying to build up comments or something to attack later?

Re: Spammers

PostPosted:Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:28 am
by RiverRat
He signed up and activated his account right away, then let it sit for a few days as a sleeper account. He came back this morning and started making one line posts to build his post count up, most likely to put up sig spam links.

Unfortunately dumbass forgot that the average user doesn't submit posts 30 to 90 seconds apart.

Re: Spammers

PostPosted:Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:32 am
by Rusty the Scoob
Why do they even bother to go through all this trouble just to spam the 50-100 of us that post here regularly? Seems like a lot of work for very little potential payoff.

Re: Spammers

PostPosted:Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:33 am
by strumminsix
Rusty the Scoob wrote:Why do they even bother to go through all this trouble just to spam the 50-100 of us that post here regularly? Seems like a lot of work for very little potential payoff.
Firstly, all it takes is 1 person to take the bait. Secondly, our count is officially "2713 users "

Re: Spammers

PostPosted:Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:24 pm
by RiverRat
Rusty the Scoob wrote:Why do they even bother to go through all this trouble just to spam the 50-100 of us that post here regularly? Seems like a lot of work for very little potential payoff.
The spamming isn't meant for us, it's meant for Search Engine Spiders. Backlinking is a Search Engine Optimization trick... the back links boost a links ratings in most search engine and it scores better than other similiar links.

Couple that with stuff like Google AdSense and it can start to become a VERY lucrative business.