[Imagined Days]

Alright, first off, hello!

So.........I either spend 320 on Neomags, or 350-600 on a pair of k120's. New vs old! I love Jerry's 77 tone and want to pursue it. I have a twin, Ibanez with 3 super II's coil tapped, CAE Pre, effects loop in the guitar, MXR Dist +, analog delay all the parts, fingers and all. So which speaker?

[strumminsix]

Same thing I said on GearHeads:

Which neomags?! Assuming Webers?

They are D120 clones. You are not comparing apples to apples.

Love my Weber Noemags but I also prefer the D120f sounds...

[Imagined Days]

Yes, the weber Neomags. Right now I have 2 weber cali's, ceramic, and they sound great. i just want to get closer to '77.

[SarnoMusicSolutions]

I've heard that a well broken in Weber neomag with the same cone and metal dustcap as a D120 or K120 really grows to sound quite similar to the real thing. New, like any new cone, they're kind of brash and hard sounding. But after some time and abuse, they come alive. I want to try one myself.


Brad

[Rusty the Scoob]

I've heard that a well broken in Weber neomag with the same cone and metal dustcap as a D120 or K120 really grows to sound quite similar to the real thing. New, like any new cone, they're kind of brash and hard sounding. But after some time and abuse, they come alive. I want to try one myself.


Brad

that's good info! I really want to build something around a D140 but the weight, cost and most importatnly 75-watt power handling won't cut it. I like that you can get a Neomag in a ribbed-cone, aluminum dustcap version.

[SpaceYrface43]

When i spoke with Ted about getting a Neo-mag as close to a jbl he said he can get you there by getting a Neo-Mag with a boosted magnet.

[Imagined Days]

Boosted Magnet? It's Alnico like the D and K 120's. I wonder if he is talking about getting the E120 sound?

[jeffm725]

dont buy K's.............nobody should buy K's............they are a garbage speaker......if you see them on ebay or craigs list just forget about them and move onto something else, K's are no good for grateful dead music, only Cannibal Corpse tribute bands have need for K120's....

This has been a <self serving> Public service announcement.........now back to your regularly scheduled gear prattle

[Imagined Days]

Want them all to yourself eh?

[philsaam]

The spider -the copper ribbed ring you see under the speaker cone is a conductor- and everybody knows what a copper penny looks like in a year--from the factory or the spkr repair/recone service- you have a new air pump -runs on electricity - has magnets either kind - you still have an air pump-that running along as it does pushes air through the spider cooling the ...spkr ..they get warm --just like a car that runs and hood gets warm -ever notice how the condensation builds up on the hood first as it cools off - esp at night---gets wet -- there is a constant atmospheric pressure everywhere pretty much -right? yeah ---but not for humidity --whats that got to do with how spkrs sound ? its the copper parts with a teenciest lacquer coating --kinda like a electric motor has - and the coating on the spider - the leads --and voice coil --all get busy handling the signal voltage and [what doesnt turn to sound as power is applied -volume increased- -basically warms the spkr - and can get like real warm -real WARM --old JBLs-had glue that would melt -thats trouble --what I am saying is that copper oxidizes and more so in humid climes --I knew John Carsiege -really well -the Deads JBL reconing specialist and building spkr cabs for both the Dead and Alembic -13ply -sealed single and double spkr cabs -the A-series and B-series -tie dye grills and a beautiful walnut stain and a Watco oil finish -really nice looking and solid --suspensions change on spkrs esp if ya expose the cones to the sun -outside - I sprayed the cones of my spkrs with a clear protectant against UV rays and moisture --never know when a crowd might try to get your attention throwing a beer bottle or something --no rot no decay it paid off for me -over time it does -- so think of a spkr like a air filter - if ya can -clean em - vaccum out the dust -never push a cone in -but you can from behind lift them out to feel the stiffness -gently- test a spkr with a program source -instead of an instrument -listen to how it sounds if it doesnt have a clear sound thats all due to the windings on the voice coil -amount as well as the diameter of winding material --all copper and oxidizing --its a heat exchange thing and humidity -- ah science--just a thought P