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Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:33 am
by lbpesq
In Jonathan’s pics you can clearly see the George L connectors I mentioned previously. They really help to make a clean board.

Bill, tgo

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:26 pm
by LazyLightning72
Bill,

I have those connectors in my Sweetwater cart. I know many use small patch cables like I am right now. I made the mistake of getting white ones, where I think black ones would blend in a bit better.

Color aside, I really like the concept and the look of the ones you suggest.

I’m looking into getting one more pedal right now, and will get them when I figure out which one I’m getting.

Thanks again for pointing them out, I didn’t even know they existed.

Just a little crossover update, as all who are following my recent gear threads know, I got my amp yesterday, and had a few hours last night to play on it. I was completely taken back at how much better my pedals sounded through it. I was actually a bit disappointed in the MXR Distortion+, to the point I was seriously considering returning it and trying another. I was able to kinda dial in a few of Jerry’s tones with it, for instance Bucket. It just didn’t sound right through the Mustang II. At first I chalked it up to needing to find better setting, or something, but no matter what I did there was something missing, and I couldn’t put my finger on it.

Well I hooked up to the '65 Deluxe Reverb, and it was a night and day difference. Not just for the distortion pedal either, the QTron+ which I have been very pleased with sounds so much better too, as did the Carbon Copy Mini.

Anyhow, back OT
I’m fine using the 3M “Velcro” for the time being, especially since I’ll be adding a few more pedals and hitting them around to find what sounds best to me. I will want a more semi permanent option though a bit later. Something I can still move something if I need to, but has a good solid connection to the board itself.

Any suggestions, or what have some of you found to be the best route to go?

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:54 pm
by jalevinemd
Short of screwing everything into the board, which is what I do, the 3M Dual Lock is the next most secure option, IMHO. I think Bill mentioned it earlier in the thread.

One reason I prefer to screw everything down is that I'm a huge fan of micro sized pedals. With simple Velcro, they tend to rock from side to side when stepped on. Not an issue with the screws. Less noticeable with the Dual Lock.

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:08 pm
by lbpesq
Not sure what you mean by 3M Velcro? 3M Dual Lock is the way to go. The sticky side is superior to the Velcro sticky side. I’ve often had Velcro peel off the bottom of pedals, especially mini pedals. Dual Lock stays put. Period. And it comes in different strengths - (warning, don’t put max strength on both the board and the pedal. You will have a very difficult time separating them!)

Dual Lock will keep your pedals solidly connected to the board, none of the rocking side to side you find with Velcro.

And congrats on the new amp! New stuff is great. I’m playing around with a new solder station I just bought on Amazon.

Bill, tgo

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:18 pm
by LazyLightning72
I meant the roll of 3M Dual-Lock fastener that came with the board. I was just using Velcro as a generic term for it.

I didn’t know they made different strengths.

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:05 pm
by LazyLightning72
Ok, it looks like I might need to get a loop pedal for practice. Anyone have or know any thing about the Boss RC-1 Loop Station?

I like it has 12min of recording time. I wanted 10 and up. It’s also a decent price.

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:16 pm
by lbpesq
The Boss pedal and the TC Electronics Ditto seem to be the two most popular looper pedals. There are several different Ditto pedals, some up to an hour of recording.

Bill, tgo

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:20 pm
by NeilG1
I have the standard, mono ditto looper. If you are looking for a mini pedal with simple functions, it's great. Nothing fancy but easy to use and reliable. Battery or AC adaptor is nice too.

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:35 pm
by lbpesq
I have the Ditto mini also. It records up to five minutes which is a lot longer than it seems once you are actually laying down tracks. It is tricky for live use - it’s difficult to get the timing right with only one switch and the double-tapping it requires. But for laying down some rhythm and then jamming along it works quite well. It’s also great for comparing amps and speaker cabs. I lay down some chords and/or riffs, then I can put my guitar down and let the looper play while I swap amps and speakers back and forth.

Bill, tgo

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:07 pm
by LazyLightning72
Maybe I will give the Boss a try.

I will take a look at the Ditto first though.

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:55 pm
by LazyLightning72
After looking at them both, I decided to give the Boss pedal a try. With 12 min of recording time, that should be plenty for what I am using it for.

Hopefully it will be here by Monday.

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:05 pm
by LazyLightning72
Had a nice surprise today, my Boss RC-1 Loop Station came 2 days early. Wasn’t expecting it till Monday. Can’t wait to try it out tonight!

Edit:
Is it best to put this one last in line?

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:43 pm
by LazyLightning72
Man, that loop station is seriously fun to play with. It’s like having my own personal rhythm guitarist at all times, lol!

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:25 pm
by tdcrjeff
LazyLightning72 wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:05 pmIs it best to put this one last in line?
Yes, since that way you have the flexibility to include different effects in the loop and in the non-loop.

Re: Setting up my first pedal board, could use some input!

PostPosted:Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:47 pm
by wabisabied
LazyLightning72 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:43 pm Man, that loop station is seriously fun to play with. It’s like having my own personal rhythm guitarist at all times, lol!
I’ve said many times that if it weren’t for my robot (loop station,) I’d probably have more friends!