Sure, I know that its mostly personal preference where your effects "go" in your chain and if want it in the loop (after pre). I have always used the 'Tron, Octave, and Dirt before the preamp and Phase and Delay in the loop- pretty common stuff for around here, so it would seem. So, keeping in mind this is without the use of an OBEL, what are some thoughts on the placement of time-based effects (i.e. delay, phase, etc) when an effects loop is not physically available in a combo amp? I have an opinion on it but I am curious what others might consider.