Why not just make a clone of an old MC-50?
Me too! 600 watts is right about where I'd like to be. I'm using every inch of my 350 right now just to keep up as a stage monitor. But please, please don't sell them to guitar players! Especially now that we know we have to push them hard to get the sound.jdsmodulus wrote:If were going to ask for clones, I will just say that Brad if you make a MC2300 clone for under 1000$ I will place my order now.
That's nothing. I think it was in '78, I ran into some cats from the planet Floopular in the parking lot of a show in Andover and they told me Jerry had stolen all of the good solos from their planet and they were there to try to get them back. Freaky stuff man...playingdead wrote:I remember reading somewhere about the US military freaking out because it needed MC2300s but the Grateful Dead had reserved them all for the Wall of Sound and wouldn't part with any of them.
The amp didn't clip per the lab tests until output of over 480 watts per channel!Power Guard, a McIntosh circuit innovation, maximizes sound quality at high power levels while our Sentry Monitor feature provides continuous short circuit protection of the amplifier and connected loudspeakers.
NeebruM wrote:The early 2300's did have sentry guard, but NOT power guard. I had one for 30+ years, bought around the same time as Jerry's. Sentry guard was a circuit breaker.
this is how the GD used the 2 mc2300's in jerry's Wall of Sound rig. just Prior he only used one for the 8 -12"NeebruM wrote:The amp was designed for 8 12's, 2 mid ranges and 2 tweeter arrays for the ML4 speaker system..
this is without doubt a correct statement. but the talk here is about the removal of said Sentry Monitor, which would allow Jerry to actually reach the clip point and saturate those transistors. with the Sentry Monitor, it is current limited to a threshhold as that is the function of a VI current limiter. Although mcintosh states this is only for severe shorts during operation, but it does do something to those transient peaks that clip that threshhold. HEALY stated that there was no limiter on the driver cards they used. he also hand matched the transistors to include the drivers on the heatsinks of the driver cards and the emitter resistors. these were not stock mc2300 they used during the WOS, and jerry's was the same one he used from the WOS.NeebruM wrote:I think most of what you heard was the MAJOR amplifying of the preamp tubes, for the most part, but I stand to learn otherwise... .
this must be from the WOS days, as jerry ran his rig with the single mc2300 a tad or 2 higher. i wonder which one jerry kept!NeebruM wrote:Oh, and the order that the CIA (or whoever) was beat out of was for the even MORE massive 2500's, I think they were called, though the "Navy" got some 2300's too...
actually this is all wrong, it was the MC3500 tube amps the navy tried to get from the GD. later as healy stated, it was the gd that had to wait for the military to get there production runs over for the mc2300 as well as spare parts. i guess a lessoned learned by not letting them get a couple of the mc3500's when they asked. LOL
NeebruM wrote:Oh, and from 1st hand experience back stage AND front, the Mac's were always on 3:00 or higher AND each one had names: bertha, sally, cindy, etc...