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 #68297  by Dozin
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:22 am
Does anyone know the lick Weir does before the Chorus? It's like a finger slide in A. I can't seem to find it.
 #68309  by strumminsix
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:23 am
What era? Early ones Weir is riffing all over the song.
 #68310  by Dozin
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:36 am
I hear it hear and there in all eras. We'll pick 77 8) Again only before the chorus

one way is da da da da daaaaa x3 DA or daaaaa da daaaaa da daaaaaaa da DA get it? lol
 #68313  by strumminsix
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:08 am
hmmm, i'm listening now to my 77 shows and not hearing any repeating constant riff/lick.

but that doesn't mean it's not there. i've primarily worked around an A major triad, arpeggios and working in some other A-scale notes --> nothing fancy.


the only repeating like i know in BEW is "and it looks like the old man" --> da da da dah duh
 #68314  by ebick
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:15 am
Perhaps some widely available recording with start and end times will help.
 #68316  by tigerstrat
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:23 am
"Before the chorus" ... so do you mean the end of the verse part, like over "Didn't get the lickin's that the Other Ones had." for example? I can hear it in my head, it does seem like a cool finger-slidey thing.
 #68322  by strumminsix
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:44 am
i'm hearing a hammer on there:
Keep the base of the A barre
then hammer the 16th, 15th, and at other times 17th
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 #68328  by jeffm725
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:35 am
dozin that is a signature weir BEW lick, I play it all the time. it is a double stop 2 fret slide and then an A chord at the 14th fret

The double stop starts at the 14th fret on the G and E strings (so you are actually holding an A and an F#) slide the same grip up 2 frets to the 16th (B and G#) and then right off that slide land on just an A shape barre on the 14th fret (which is an a chord) with your index finger really only playing the DGB strings (EAC# notes) (just a standard 1st position A barre and you really want to only pick out the A and C# notes there.

A great, tasty riff....

No hammering, strummin' is a slide up
 #68329  by jeffm725
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:41 am
 #68330  by Dozin
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:12 pm
Right on!
 #68331  by strumminsix
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:13 pm
jeffm725 wrote:No hammering, strummin' is a slide up
Good stuff, Jeff, and I hear exactly what you are saying in alot of versions.
However, in this version I am hearing some hammering... Did you listen around that time Dozin stated?

More importantly, big thanks for another tool in my Weir bag o' tricks!!!! THANKS!
 #68332  by jeffm725
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:34 pm
I should have qualified that no hammerin' statement.......there is weir hammering all over the place on pretty much every BEW. It is just the specific lick that dozin was mentioning that is on a ton of versions (mostly from 78-onward) I hear as a slide always. I hear it as a slide on that specific example from the 79 show at the 25 second mark as well. I hear him hammering some stuff leading up to it, but the phrase in question sounds like a slide to me although it sounds like he is starting the slide from 15>16 instead of 14>16 which he did from time to time. Certainly you could hear a hammer there and not be wrong. Maybe I am so preconditioned to knowing it as a slide that I cant hear the hammer even though it is there. Hopefully you didnt take offense because none was meant. :smile:
 #68334  by strumminsix
 Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:13 pm
jeffm725 wrote:Hopefully you didnt take offense because none was meant. :smile:
None taken, dude! Just making sure your statement wasn't about Weir doing something that way 99% of the time without listening to the clip and that clip being the 1%! I know plenty of times I don't click links at work!