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 #51466  by Pete B.
 Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:10 pm
If you go to Track 5 of this Archive link from '72, (labeled "Tuning"), and go to about the 1min & 9sec to ~1:14 mark, I could swear Jerry casually runs the "Whip" section of the "Slipknot" lick.
This pre-dates other early sightings I've heard (rehearsals or other early tid-bits and pieces otherwise).
http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-08- ... efail.shnf

I dunno... I guess I just found it notably interesting.
~pb

 #51497  by ELPManticore
 Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:29 am
You know, I listen to that show pretty frequently, and I've thought I've heard it there also. That whole Berkely run is great though.

Congratulations on the 420th post as well!

 #51507  by tigerstrat
 Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:31 am
Listened to it twice and didn't hear it. At the time range specified, I don't even hear any Jerry at all...? We have the right clip here?

 #51515  by Pete B.
 Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:44 am
I'm hearing some silence just before ~1:09, Bobby hits a few chucks (like warming up for the BIODTL intro), Jerry is quietly noodling througout in the background from before the 1min mark, then runs that lick right after Bobby hits two chucks (Jer is kinda in the backround) at approx 1:09-1:14.
The new player is automatically loading for me in Archive, so I'm able to drag the ball right to approx 1:05 of Track 5.
Turn it way up and give it few more listens.
It sounds like he is playing it in a lower register.
Last edited by Pete B. on Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.

 #51517  by astroman99
 Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:05 pm
I hear it, but to me it sounds more like a kids song I can't name, the phrasing is similar to slip, but not the notes ..imho

 #51522  by jonarobb
 Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:38 pm
I hear it. Good call Pete. Definately that string of descending minor arpeggios...

 #51524  by tigerstrat
 Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:10 pm
OK, finally heard it that time. You really have to crank it.

And... eh. Kind of. I would flip am99's comment- the notes are similar but the phrasing is not.

You are listening HARD to those tuning segments, Pete! Too cool.

 #51531  by Pete B.
 Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:57 pm
Oh Man, I know this is nutty to hear something so out there and think I recognized it...
But even nuttier... I just tabbed it out!

4 seconds of Jerry noodling in the backround in 1972.

E|--8--5--------------------------------------------
B|--------6-----8--5--------3-----------------------
G|-----------7--------5--------4--------2-----------
D|-----------------------7--------5--2-----4--------
A|--------------------------------------------5--2--
E|--------------------------------------------------

:smile:

 #51535  by tigerstrat
 Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:57 pm
Pete B. wrote:Oh Man, I know this is nutty to hear something so out there and think I recognized it...
But even nuttier... I just tabbed it out!

4 seconds of Jerry noodling in the backround in 1972.

E|--8--5--------------------------------------------
B|--------6-----8--5--------3-----------------------
G|-----------7--------5--------4--------2-----------
D|-----------------------7--------5--2-----4--------
A|--------------------------------------------5--2--
E|--------------------------------------------------

:smile:
You are one sick puppy!!! :lol:

 #51537  by jonarobb
 Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:02 pm
tigerstrat wrote:
Pete B. wrote:Oh Man, I know this is nutty to hear something so out there and think I recognized it...
But even nuttier... I just tabbed it out!

4 seconds of Jerry noodling in the backround in 1972.

E|--8--5--------------------------------------------
B|--------6-----8--5--------3-----------------------
G|-----------7--------5--------4--------2-----------
D|-----------------------7--------5--2-----4--------
A|--------------------------------------------5--2--
E|--------------------------------------------------

:smile:
You are one sick puppy!!! :lol:
I'm even sicker for practicing this and then playing back to the 5 second segement, and loving it!

;)