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 #46208  by Tennessee Jedi
 Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:12 pm
Thanks for the linky -link !
Cool version ....


 #46212  by hesgone95
 Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:15 pm
Hey Crazy 9.5 thanks for the tab tid bit. I've always loved that little melody but've never gotten around to trying to figure it out. I've just been playing along with that 73
Vancouver show. Nice! :cool:

 #46216  by darksun
 Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:37 pm
I dunno... i'm still thinking A...


(please forgive my tab making skills)

 #46217  by Crazy 9.5 Fingers
 Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:07 pm
Look at the first post I put up earlier today. The notes are part of the A minor pentatonic scale. That last note in your tab is the major third of D, (F#) it works, but mostly as a harmony note. The rest of it is right, I tabbed it out down in the open position because I was going off the "Garcia" recording.

 #46218  by darksun
 Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:39 pm
Sorry, i'm not that much into the music theory yet... still learning you know?

 #46220  by Crazy 9.5 Fingers
 Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:09 pm
Well you have the innate part of it down in that you have a great ear. That goes a long way. There are cats out there that can study theory all day and night but their ear never develops.

There is a ton of great info on this forum and a lot of very chill people who are more than happy to help with it. Good luck with it all.

 #46221  by Dozin
 Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:13 pm
Another vote for E

 #46225  by willmusic
 Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:56 pm
It's always been E for me too.

 #46238  by Billbbill
 Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:48 am
Me E too.

For the record an acoustic Reckoning era vid I watched on yt has jg playing it here:

(/) Slide Up (\) Slide Down (h) Hammer On (p) Pull Off (b) Bend (r) Release (v) Vibrato


I think.

Here's the vid

 #46239  by SpaceYrface43
 Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:47 am
Yet another vote for E. Check out the Dick's Picks 11 Version Stanley theater i believe nice version of the harmonized parts of Jerry and Bobby.

 #46244  by Good Times
 Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:42 am
I am learning this also in E. I had my guitar teacher tab it out from a live recording, not sure what show off the top of my head, though.

 #46253  by pappypgh
 Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:23 am
tigerstrat wrote:Another vote for key of E. That was always the live performance key of the song, even the early versions.
I believe you are incorrect, TS. The vast majority, yes....but I think if you listen to Closing The Filmore East 4/29/71, you'll find it in D.

I MUCH prefer E. I also used to do that "swingy" intro sometimes...still do in rehearsal sometimes, but mostly play it a la 80s/90s.

That Vancouver '73 is sickleberry - I have that whole show somewhere. Bobby's guitar is LOUD for the day and he plays some of the sickest shit I've ever heard in the "Deal" from that show.

There was a Bird Song in Spring 91 I saw (Greensboro, maybe? Landover, maybe?) where they peaked 3 distinct times in the jam (took it to that D-D...D-D-D-D...D-D-D-D...D-D-D-D...D-A...E.... peak). Must have easily been 14-15 minutes long and one of the best post-Brent jams I saw. Cap Center 90 w/ Brent was a great one, too.

 #46257  by astroman99
 Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:55 am
Bird song from Giants stadium--august 94, very impressive, Jerry runs thru his midi patches like a swiss watch,
and of course Houston 11-11-72? 71?
with the piano(fender rhodes) going thru a wah !!, nicey..nice

 #46260  by Crazy 9.5 Fingers
 Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:25 pm
Huge fan of that Houston '72 Birdsong. Maybe the formative tune and version for my endless love affair with GD.

 #46262  by jonarobb
 Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:35 pm
These are my favorites! ;)

Seriously, this thread got me listening to alot of these and the Vancouver one still really has the sickest "deep space nine" treatment. Listen to the 10/17, 10/18 and 10/19/72 St. Louis shows. Sounds like 3 different bands. The Houston 72' show is legendary in so many ways, the Birdsong included!

07/18/72- Roosevelt Stadium - Jersey City, NJ
07/22/72- Paramount Northwest - Seattle, WA
07/25/72- Paramount Theatre - Portland, OR
08/12/72- Sacramento Memorial Auditorium - Sacramento, CA
08/20/72- Civic Auditorium - San Jose, CA
08/22/72- Berkeley Community Theater - Berkeley, CA
08/24/72- Berkeley Community Theater - Berkeley, CA
08/27/72- Old Renaissance Faire Grounds - Veneta, OR
09/03/72- Folsom Field (University Of Colorado) - Boulder, CO
09/09/72- Hollywood Palladium - Hollywood, CA
09/10/72- Hollywood Palladium - Hollywood, CA
09/15/72- Boston Music Hall - Boston, MA
09/16/72- Boston Music Hall - Boston, MA
09/17/72- Baltimore Civic Center - Baltimore, MD
09/19/72- Roosevelt Stadium - Jersey City, NJ
09/21/72- The Spectrum - Philadelphia, PA
09/23/72- The Palace Theater - Waterbury, CT
09/24/72- The Palace Theater - Waterbury, CT
09/26/72- Stanley Theater - Jersey City, NJ
09/27/72- Stanley Theater - Jersey City, NJ
09/30/72- American University - Washington DC, DC
10/02/72- Springfield Civic Center - Springfield, MA
10/17/72- Fox Theater - St. Louis, MO
10/18/72- Fox Theater - St. Louis, MO
10/19/72- Fox Theater - St. Louis, MO
10/21/72- Vanderbilt University - Nashville, TN
10/26/72- Music Hall - Cincinnati, OH
10/27/72- Veterans' Memorial Auditorium - Columbus, OH
10/30/72- Ford Auditorium - Detroit, MI
11/19/72- Hofheinz Pavilion - Houston, TX
11/22/72- Municipal Auditorium - Austin, TX
11/26/72- Civic Auditorium - San Antonio, TX
12/10/72- Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA
12/12/72- Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA
02/17/73- St. Paul Auditorium - St. Paul, MN
02/22/73- Assembly Hall (University Of Illinois) - Champaign-Urbana, IL
03/16/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY
03/22/73- Utica Memorial Auditorium - Utica, NY
03/30/73- War Memorial Auditorium - Rochester, NY
06/10/73- Robert F. Kennedy Stadium - Washington DC, DC
06/22/73- P.N.E. Coliseum - Vancouver, XCanada
06/30/73- Universal AmphiTheater - Universal City, CA
07/27/73- Grand Prix Racecourse - Watkins Glen, NY
08/01/73- Roosevelt Stadium - Jersey City, NJ
09/07/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY
09/12/73- William and Mary College - Williamsburg, VA
09/15/73- Providence Civic Center - Providence, RI