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 #34884  by GratefulPat
 Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:26 am
would this be able to get close to jerrys sound, and also i found one slightly used for 700? i assume its worth it but i wont buy it unless the tone would be right

 #34885  by GratefulPat
 Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:35 am
and that is any year from 72 to 79i am looking to get

 #34895  by High Peaks
 Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:57 am
You can probably find a 70's silverface for $700. If you have the dough, i always would suggest vintage. Better amps, point to point, easier to work on.
Also, for some reason i founf my reissue to be extremely tinny in sound. Other people here do like it though.
There is a thread just like this one, if you are interested in trying to get as close as possible with that amp. It was pretty recent, so it should be easy to find.

 #34896  by strumminsix
 Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:00 am
Yes, ballpark.

Jerry = blackface, point to point, upgraded hi-fi components, solid state power amp & JBL speakers.

You = blackface revised, PCB, mass production components, tube poweramp, Jensen speakers.

See the similarities and differences?

You are closer to a 60s sound.

Now I'll ask this, what type of cables are you using? Makes a huge difference.

 #34911  by tigerstrat
 Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:55 am
Not to mention tubes. The 65 RI will come equipped with a stock set of... whatever new manufacture tubes Fender is currently buying shipping containers full of... what is Fender using these days? Chinese/Russian/Serbian something-or-other.

A vintage amp will most often be well-taken care of by its previous owner, and often it will have had NOS tubes carefully selected for it in advance of you acquiring it, and/or been BF'ed in the bias-circuit, maybe even decent speakers if you're lucky.

And yes pre-1979 is a pretty good rule... although Fender still produced a few point-to-point models as late as 1986 (the mighty mite Super Champ being the last one)

 #34971  by GratefulPat
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:44 am
what about a deluxe reverb?? will that get me there?

 #34986  by strumminsix
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:42 am
GratefulPat wrote:what about a deluxe reverb?? will that get me there?
6V6s versus 6L6s = different poweramp sound.
Less clean headroom
More rock than big round clean
Tube rect IIRC = more sag

Further away...

 #34996  by High Peaks
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:42 am
Think Trey sound for Deluxe Reverb. Less headroom like ss said. That being said, at lower volumes, if you mic it and throw in a JBL, Im sure you could come close to the wtwin sound.

 #41470  by GratefulPat
 Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:48 pm
my twin reissue is buzzing mighty loud when im plugged in but not playing. when i touch metal it calms..? anyone know what the deal is?

 #41477  by playingdead
 Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:14 am
Is the amp quiet when it's on and your guitar is not plugged in?

Is the amp quiet when your guitar is plugged in but your guitar volume is all the way down?

If that's the case, it's probably a shielding issue with the guitar ... get a long cord, walk around behind it, to the side of it, as far away from it as you can get and see if it quiets down.

I have similar problems in my house, especially with single coil guitars.

If it's buzzing without anything plugged in, it's likely a grounding issue with the amp itself ... I'm sure others here are more knowledgeable.

 #41508  by GratefulPat
 Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:57 pm
yes to both... so how do i take care of this problem with my guitar

 #41510  by playingdead
 Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:11 pm
Good question ...

Copper works well to shield against interference, I think most guitar supply places sell it. There is also some paint you can apply to the control cavity which will do a better job shielding it. ... _Tape.html ... g_Kit.html ... Paint.html

 #41514  by steve6string
 Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:51 pm
What kind of guitar/pickups are you using? Did this just start out of the blue? Did it used to be quiet? Do you have florescent (sp?) bulb or a halogen lamp with a brightness dimmer on it in the same room?


 #41565  by CommonStranger
 Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:41 pm
Try plugging the amp into different outlets or a whole other house for that matter. A buddy of mine lives in an older house with old wiring. Everybody that plugs an amp in at his house has this problem. Bad ground or old wiring will cause this, but could be anything, but this is a good way to narrow it down between your gear and the power source.

 #41567  by GratefulPat
 Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:20 pm
to all, yes i have flourescents, but the grounds are lifted so that is not it. im using a gibson les paul studio supreme plus with stock pickups. ive tried all other outlets and its the same and its gotten louder than normal out of the blue... its especially bad when my treb is over 4 and i normally play it on 8 mid 9 bass 3 rev 3