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 #38041  by thedudeabides
 Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:56 pm
Hello fellow deadheads. This is my first post. I've been "lurking" for a bit and I gotta say you have an awesome thing going here. My question is, during those earlier rehearsal photos of the dead (later 60's) you see pigpen with a keyboard style organ. Does anyone know the make and/or model? Just curious. Thanks!

 #38050  by FairTheeWell
 Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:23 pm
May a suggest Blair Jacksons...

"The Grateful Dead Gear"

I received as a gift for X-Mas and it's just a great resource. He does a great job explaining in detail early Dead gear. I'm pretty sure it's in there but I'm at work and don't have it on me.

 #38056  by frankielee
 Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:01 pm

 #38068  by thedudeabides
 Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:46 pm
Thanks for the welcome and for the book suggestion. Sort of random, I know, but, despite what some may say, I love that early sound pig got on the organ parts. Very thick, full, and heady. I look forward to some good times on the board...

 #38091  by BuddhaG
 Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:02 pm
"theres this really heady lake at the top of this mountain, man"

is heady a term used on the west coast? it seems like everyone and everything in Vermont is heady. heheheh :D stoners 8)

 #38095  by ebick
 Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:13 pm
[quote="BuddhaGis heady a term used on the west coast?[/quote]

That's Headly........Headly Llamarr

 #38115  by IamDocWatson
 Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:43 pm
that organ sounds like junk...especially because pigpen was no good at playing it...

the views expressed in this posts are fact

 #38118  by willmusic
 Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:18 pm
IamDocWatson wrote:that organ sounds like junk...especially because pigpen was no good at playing it...

the views expressed in this posts are fact

Nice of you to contribute to the thread, Doc. It wouldn't be a real discussion without you. I'd start a slow clap for ya, but...

 #38120  by IamDocWatson
 Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:38 am
no problem :P

 #38121  by IamDocWatson
 Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:42 am
i like to try to help ya know....

"what organ did pig use"


"dont worry about it, it sucks!"


"thanks for nothing doc"


that sums up my typical thread

 #38123  by IamDocWatson
 Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:48 am
but honestly though i can not stand alot of the early stuff with pig on organ...i dont knwo how well its been documented but seriosuly could he even really play that thing? or was he just wingin it

 #38127  by IamDocWatson
 Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:55 am
like the birth of the dead stuff it sound slike he is detracting from the rhtym if anything, and bob hasnt gotten into his zone yet himself so the dynamics just seem like a clusterfuck compared to the sweet amazing full band interplay of u know...71-73 and beyond but specifically that time period is some of my favorite styel of the dead...stretching definately into 74 and as far as compared to that stuff, its just doesnt work the same for me

 #38131  by thedudeabides
 Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:38 am
He plays organ on Europe '72, right? Some of his riffs complement the piano nicely. I would assume he's using a typical hammond/leslie set up by that time. But on stuff like DDB and DTR of Aoxo, there are some pretty funky little pig riffs (unless that's TC?) I know there was recently a discussion about The Festival Express DVD, which I saw myself just recently. Pig's only apparent role on that DVD seem to be that of the blues harp player/singer. Not bad at all. Just a few thoughts. :cool:

 #38242  by Django
 Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:27 pm
Keep the time era in context, Pig's Farfisa sounded no more funky than Paul Revere and the Raiders. Don't get me wrong, as soon as players started using the Hammonds I liked organs alot better.