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 #35253  by Pete B.
 Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:57 pm
Hey Gang,
I gave Help/Slip a shot on the Video thing.
It's a long song with alot of parts, so I've made it into 4 Video segments.
[Note: I just caught that I mistakenly call a "Bb7" a "B7" at the 29 sec mark of part 1, so watch for that.]
I tried to break it into a "building blocks" type of thing, for each segment.

Here 'goes...

Part 1: "Help On the Way" basic chords/licks.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VB7Qttuf9sw


Part 2: "Slipknot" - The Diminished segments.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Q-sfW_fXHA


Part 3: The "Slipknot" section.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=quNQIP3jMkA


Part 4: Slipknot - "Study in Am" section.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X4WYBF0113I

 #35259  by gr8fulbluz
 Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:20 pm
:cool:
OMG!! thanks so much I wont get around to it until next week but it looks great so far

 #35260  by Dozin
 Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:23 pm
thanks for doing this. gotta love the video lessons

 #35265  by tigerstrat
 Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:09 pm
Steely Pete's the man! Hey Pete, cool Strat, how come I've never seen that? Lookin forward to watching these with sound...

 #35270  by paulee
 Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:09 pm
impressive! ALOT of helpful insights here!

Thanks Pete

 #35273  by GratefulPat
 Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:23 pm
wow! how long have you been playing, just so i know how much room i gotta cover in the next few years to be able to jam like that?

 #35282  by strumminsix
 Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:10 am
Love the vids and your fingers work over that strat like a proverbial hot knife thru butter!

Question, no Dm at the end of the first line?

I hear the single note run for it but no chord reference.

Are my ears playing tricks and that is really only maybe Phil?!

 #35295  by waldo041
 Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:27 am
Thanks Pete B.!
:thewave:

peace,
waldo

 #35300  by mkaufman
 Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:44 am
Very nice!

How about Weir's Weather Report 1?

mk

 #35316  by shakedown_04092
 Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:40 am
mkaufman wrote:Very nice!

How about Weir's Weather Report 1?

mk
I've got one here: http://community.rukind.org/viewtopic.p ... highlight=, and here's LIG: http://community.rukind.org/viewtopic.p ... highlight=, but I'd still LOVE to see Pete's take on it. Great job on the Help>Slip Pete, I concur w/ SS - like a hot knife through butter. How long've you been playing? :cool: :smile:

 #35342  by Pete B.
 Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:45 pm
Hey Guys, Thanks for the kind replys.
I really took on the task of learning this tune when the tab for it came out in the Dec 2005 Guitar Player mag. I also spent alot of time deciphering the JDarks tab for this one.
The cool thing is, it actually makes perfect sence from a musical standpoint. This is a tune I never thought I would be able to play. 'Been messin' with it since it was published in Em in the Grateful Dead Anthology from the like the late 70's.
I've been playing guitar in bands since the mid/late 70's, but went off on a major Pedal Steel Guitar tangent from '95 to about '05. I have really been into guitar lately, and have switched to 7-strings for the most part, but I thought I should do these vids on a common instrument.

Strummin', where do you think the Dm should be? I'll check it out.

These are my interpretations. Every time I see or hear Dead vids or recordings I see something I have turned into a bad habit, or blatently mistaken.
I'm kinda going for the "Methods for mere Mortals" approach.
:smile:

Cool,
Pete B.

 #35356  by strumminsix
 Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:05 pm
Pete B. wrote:
Strummin', where do you think the Dm should be? I'll check it out.
Ed has it on the main page:
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Fm              Cm                          Fm              Fm Eb Dm-
Paradise Waits, on the crest of a wave, her angels in flame.
Fm               Cm                            Fm              Fm Eb Fm

 #35378  by Billbbill
 Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:18 am
Very nice once again Pete.

You've inspired me to finally get a grip on this. I've messed around with it for a long time but never quite got it together.

At the end of part 1 you cite the scale. Seems light G dorian (F Ionian?) if I'm hearing it right. I've used F dorian. I think the 2nd note your hitting is an A. Thats the maj third of F and since this is kinda a minor blues thing I'm all confused.

Can you elaborate on what's going on scale wise?

And whether or not I'm hearing it right?

 #35386  by ronster
 Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:27 am
Unbefuckingleavable. How do you remember all of that? I tackle this song every year or so and then promptly forget 1/2 of what I learned. I figure by the time I'm 80 I'll be able to remember the whole thing. Except when I'm 80 I'll be happy to rember not to crap my pants. Thanks for all the great stuff to work on and forget. Your tease into The Music Never Stopped gives me hope that may be your next video.

 #35392  by Pete B.
 Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:21 am
strumminsix wrote:
Pete B. wrote:
Strummin', where do you think the Dm should be? I'll check it out.
Ed has it on the main page:
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Fm              Cm                          Fm              Fm Eb Dm-
Paradise Waits, on the crest of a wave, her angels in flame.
Fm               Cm                            Fm              Fm Eb Fm


Strummin',
I looked at the tab. He is calling it a D minor diminished (Dmin-).
He prefaces the picture of the chord with the statement "** Play this like a Bb, just don't hit the high string."
I called it a Bb, or Bb7, because I want "Help On The Way" to be thought of as an easy, three chord "minor blues" song (not much different than say "The Thrill Is Gone".
I will try his chord tonight (don't have a guitar at hand).

So FWIW, most all of the licks/chords I choose to play are in the positions that work/sound best to me (I often wonder why Jerry or Bobby play certain things in certain positions, because it seems easier to play or sounds better to me in a different position).
The Guitar Player Tabs and JDarks show some of them in different positions, and although everyone will probably settle on a fave position, I think it is good to be able to play alot of this stuff out of different positions as a matter of general fluency (you could drill the common licks out of each CAGED position, for example).
~pb