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 #34977  by drums>space
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:17 am
I'm not really looking for the EXACT sound cuz i know i'll just drive myself crazy over it. But i guess i was just wondering if anyone can tell what effects he's mixing together (jerry). I'm just tryin to get a rough idea before i start messing with it more. Anyone have an ideas?

 #34978  by waldo041
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:19 am

 #34980  by Tennessee Jedi
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:24 am
What Happened to your "Bud"?
Ah 420 comes and goes...... :lol: :lol:

 #34981  by waldo041
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:27 am


 #34982  by Tennessee Jedi
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:31 am
Yo Drumz.
For Dancin' I think the Q Tron would give you that sound.
Just dont set it in Shakedown mode.
Its one of the other settings,maybe mode 2?
I keep my 'Tron set on the Shakedown setting,but if you change the 1st knob it starts to sound cool more like Dancin'.
Never used a EMMA but folks here are real sweet on the unit.
Good luck! :cool:

 #35001  by High Peaks
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:19 pm
To get the Dancin tone, its the switch on top of the pedal. You just flick it to the opposite setting, be it down or up.

 #35003  by pappypgh
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:36 pm
Yup - you can use a Q-Tron...I have one, too. You want the arrow on the left top side to be in the "down" position and you have to change the top dial to the last setting, I believe. It pretty much changes the "blow up note" envelope sound to the "suck in note" envelope sound...basically the difference between the Shakedown sound & the Dancin sound, as these cats have put it. My old lead player in Double Dose (Philly) used to use a wah-pedal and he had GREAT control to make the same sound....kinda hard to do, tho.
Good luck!
PS - Hope you have a Travis Bean guitar!!! j/k :roll:

 #35004  by tigerstrat
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:37 pm
On at least a couple of the later '79 versions (but still the "disco" arr.) the Mutron is left in Up mode.

The "down" mutron sound was actually introduced on Dancin's in summer of 76... not sure but I think maybe the "up" sound didnt debut until Jerry got the fx loop in late fall of 76, just before the advent of Fire and Estimated in february 77.

 #35006  by BlobWeird
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:55 pm
Just to clarify it. The switch is named "drive". And yeah it would definitely come from the wah in up drive position.

 #35007  by pappypgh
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:58 pm
You are QTron to get the Shakedown sound is in "down" on the "drive" switch and "normal" on the right hand switch. If you want to go the other way, it's UP...but I'd keep the normal position on the right, rather than high. You still do have to change the top dial on the right to the bottom setting, I believe....

 #35010  by tigerstrat
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:02 pm
That's strange, on a Mutron the Shakedown sound is UP and the Dancin' raygun sound is DOWN. Which makes sense if you think about it: "bwwwWWAAAAAAAiirr" for Shakedown and "nOORP" for Dancin

 #35017  by strumminsix
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:15 pm
gratephulphish123 wrote:i have a cheapo DOD envelope filter and ive been able toget it pretty close to jerry's dancin tone my blends at about 5 sensitivity at 7 and range at 8
Sounds like a DOD440, yes? Excellent pedal that sits somewhere on the outskirts of the envelopes. Not as overall musical as the MIII or Emma but it has a few very awesome and unique sounds.

 #35024  by 1960strat
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:39 pm
I see a bunch of settings for a Qtron, what about MiniQtron?

 #35028  by Tennessee Jedi
 Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:08 pm
1960s StratCat
I got the mini Qtron.
The sound is there.
Its like the other guys said about the Up and Down modes.
Twittle them knobs!
Is not on the Shakedown setting at all though.
I'm at work and tired and cant figure how to explain it.
Damn pedals only got 3 knobs and I'm confused.
Anyway you will figure it out!