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 #3  by packfoolp
 Sun May 09, 2004 8:03 pm
:shock:
this was originally called "the suicide song"...very cool song


Peace
 #17  by Dead in NY
 Tue May 11, 2004 12:10 am
to be honest, im kinda glad they decided on china doll lol
 #19  by farrlito
 Tue May 11, 2004 3:34 pm
What does China Doll mean?

 #139  by Guest
 Thu May 20, 2004 6:51 pm
:D I feel that it means a human...fragile and delicate when looked at...the song sounds like a person having a conversation with his creator (God) at heaven's gate...just what comes to my mind...anything anyone else thinks?? peace

 #140  by packfoolp
 Thu May 20, 2004 6:53 pm
:D thats my reply ^^^^...i forgot to put my name...packfoolp
 #185  by Guest
 Thu May 27, 2004 10:23 am
I read that it was written after the suicide of one of Hunter's closest friends and that he doesn't like to talk about it.

 #6294  by nedcat
 Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:30 pm
This song was about an archival revelation that would make oldivai like KFC......should the people show interest in perserving this?....3000 years too late .......losers

 #6297  by strumminsix
 Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:08 pm
nedcat wrote:This song was about an archival revelation that would make oldivai like KFC......should the people show interest in perserving this?....3000 years too late .......losers
Not sure what you mean here.....


I guess i always looked at it like a repentant person praying and finding out he received mercy for the human race due to their own destructive ways but realized this after his death.

Pistol = destructive ways
Rang the bells of heaven = great self induced destruction
Death = hit the ground

Then think of the ending, maybe in God's hands where the China Doll is fragile humanity and the "FALL" is symbolic of the fall from grace. But we are okay, just fractured, nervous....

 #49693  by CountryMile Cadillac
 Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:39 pm
yet another strange day in a string of them, and these lyrics ring true, without hearing them sung for quite some time


"Take up your china doll
it's only fractured -
and just a little nervous
from the fall"

 #49711  by tigerstrat
 Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:23 am
"make Oldivai like KFC" - huh? What, for dogs??? Bunch of fidos munching on the bones?

CMC, did I miss a piece of news today?

Bone chilling song. Check the 6/20/74... ultra-nasty fuzz solo, which may have come from a Morley wah-fuzz that was recently spotted in a 7/31/74 pic.

7/15/89 was a little different IIRC, w/ two solos, after the 2nd and 3rd verses. Preceded by an amazing Close Encounters Space(1 of only 2, the more well-known one being 1/22/78,) perhaps a nod to the nearby Richmond, Indiana setting of the movie.

 #49713  by CountryMile Cadillac
 Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:34 am
[quote="tigerstrat"]
CMC, did I miss a piece of news today?
quote]

Nah, just I was just referring to life in general. Driving home last night in a quiet car and these lyrics kept rolling in my head