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 #117860  by TRG
 Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:33 am
Searching for the Sound was good! I just recently read Home Before Daylight and Grateful Dead Gear. I can't get enough of these books that have been put out over the years. I think I've read all of them. I believe Kreutzmann has a book in the works now as well!
 #118706  by Mosfed
 Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:29 am
I am on vacation in Greece and have been reading it on the beach. About 1/2 way through and they are just getting to Woodstock. Makes me think that he will have to fly through the later years. I am enjoying it so far. Might have benefited from a ghost writer, but all in all I am enjoying it.

I saw my first show in 1985 (Hershey Park 6/28) and my last at Soldier Field 1995 (7/9/1995). As such, I am very curious as to the behind the scenes during the time that I was going. Imagining that I won't get too much since he has 150 pages to make it from 1969 to 1995.
 #125977  by Jimaroe
 Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:05 pm
I picked up Phil's book on EBay for a dollar (plus 3.95) to ship. A great deal. Anyways, I cracked it open a couple of days ago and I'm a little over half way through it. Not to state the obvious, but Altamont must've been F'in nuts. These first hand accounts of Woodstock, Festival Express et al are really interesting and a fun read. Thinking about Parish's, "Home Before Daylight" next. Suggestions on this book or? Thanks all.
 #125990  by tigger
 Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:41 am
Jimaroe wrote:I picked up Phil's book on EBay for a dollar (plus 3.95) to ship. A great deal. Anyways, I cracked it open a couple of days ago and I'm a little over half way through it. Not to state the obvious, but Altamont must've been F'in nuts. These first hand accounts of Woodstock, Festival Express et al are really interesting and a fun read. Thinking about Parish's, "Home Before Daylight" next. Suggestions on this book or? Thanks all.
If you want to hear THE wild Altamont story, read Sam Cutler's book. One of my favorites besides "Dark Star" (required reading!).

Really have to disagree about Parish's "autobiography"... he clearly didn't write it, a lot of it is trashy and/or suspect, and worst of all it sucks up to Deb Koons. Maybe fun to read, but so is the National Enquirer. It made me really dislike him until his recent appearances on Weir's TRI show.
 #125995  by Jimaroe
 Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:34 am
Thanks for the feedback, guys. I caught some bits and pieces of a Stones documentary, the name of it escapes me right now. Anyways, the live footage of Altamont was like watching a train wreck, really tough to look away. I gathered from Phil's book that the concert was announced way in advance and that it would be a free show. It all went down hill from there. The venue was established just days before the show, 300,000 people, some interesting security decisions, sounds like Phil had a bad vibe about it from the moment they landed the helicopter. Anyways, the book is good. Dark Star and Home Before Daylight are both on my list. I'll have to check out Cutler's book, too.
 #126007  by zambiland
 Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:03 pm
Jimaroe wrote:Thanks for the feedback, guys. I caught some bits and pieces of a Stones documentary, the name of it escapes me right now. Anyways, the live footage of Altamont was like watching a train wreck, really tough to look away. I gathered from Phil's book that the concert was announced way in advance and that it would be a free show. It all went down hill from there. The venue was established just days before the show, 300,000 people, some interesting security decisions, sounds like Phil had a bad vibe about it from the moment they landed the helicopter. Anyways, the book is good. Dark Star and Home Before Daylight are both on my list. I'll have to check out Cutler's book, too.
The Stones wanted to do a free show in Golden Gate Park so they contacted the Dead who said they'd do what they could to set it up. They got most of everything in place but the key factor was absolute secrecy until the last minute. They impressed on the Stones that in no way should they tell anyone about it. Of course, Mick held a press conference. The city said no way and then they had to find another spot. The Stones also wanted the Angels as security as they had done so in London. London Angels are not California Angels and most of the Angels in the Bay Area were going to a funeral that weekend, so the guys that ended up at Altamont were prospects out to prove themselves. The Angels that the Dead had hung with previously all the knew the bands and never would have done anything like punch out Marty Balin, but they weren't there to keep the young bucks in line.

Anyway, you can see what a preening prick Mick is from this video when they were all waiting for the helicopter to go to the site. The Dead seem like regular guys, no ego, fooling around waiting, but Jagger is all ego and pretension, trying to set up a movie where everyone becomes actors in his little play. You can even see how annoyed Charlie Watt is with him. I've got no use for Mick Jagger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZizWlGjACY

It's also interesting to look at the contrast between the British bands and the San Francisco scene. There's an account somewhere of George Harrison coming to visit the Haight in 67 or so and he couldn't believe the way the bands lived. The version of Haight St. in London was all high fashion and expensive boutiques, populated with aristocracy slumming it with the hippies. All the bands there aspired to higher social classes and the trappings of privilege it provided. The Dead, Airplane, Big Brother, etc., all lived with everyone else and the Brits considered it unthinkable squalor. The Dead kept it real as long as they could.
 #140539  by seamones
 Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:29 am
I just finally got around to reading Phil's book. Thought it was well done, couldn't put it down and read it over a long weekend. Did I miss something or did he completely skip over Mars Hotel. Seems like he went from Blues to Terrapin, no?