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 #138689  by PaulJay
 Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:09 pm
After listening to the amazing Playin' in the band from Sunshine Daydream the other day, I wondered why JG stopped using the Wah Wah pedal. Was it because he liked the Mutron bette ror because his style was changing?
 #138694  by TI4-1009
 Thu May 01, 2014 5:36 am

Veneta was 72, I don't think Jer got the Mutron until like 77-ish? Best guess is he liked the Mu better, or was happy to let it do all the work for him.... He could get the Mu sounds with his hands, the wah required a foot.

Wait, I'll check.... :lol:

 #138711  by tatittle
 Thu May 01, 2014 4:29 pm
It seems like Garcia usually used the wah in a fixed position as a set filter...rather than using it in the way more common: pumping the treadle either in rythym or attuned to phrasing (like Hendrix etc.). So my guess is the Mutron, with the tone rolled down, captured the sound he was shooting for better than the wah. Of course the desired tone likely changed and evolved over time as well. I recall him discussing how he wanted his guitar to sound like an oboe...and the EF with tone rolled off seems closer to my notion of that than the fixed wah.
 #138720  by waldo041
 Thu May 01, 2014 7:29 pm
Still rockin a wah through 83....into 84

 #138750  by tatittle
 Fri May 02, 2014 4:08 pm
Yeah yeah...Greatest Story E.T. is a tune where he uses the wah more conventionally. Did he ever stop using the wah entirely even on songs like this? I was under the impression he had one on the floor even at the end of his career.
 #138866  by tatittle
 Thu May 08, 2014 12:06 am
I might add that my understanding is the Colorsound wah were darker than the Thomas Organ variety (Vox, Crybaby), which would be a logical choice with such a bright set-up elsewhere. I prefer the Colorsound voice on my Fulltone deluxe...though I find myself using the wah very rarely lately...whereas I used to like to use it all the time...when I played these 2 almost exact guitars through Boogies: ... %20(3).jpg

Link rejected I guess: its a pic from the Jambase blog about Weir etc. benefit show where he plays his '59 and another guy has a Maroon LP Custom. Kinda fub=nny to see those 2 guitars on stage together outside of them being mine. Can you tell I regret not having them anymore yet?