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 #133840  by TI4-1009
 Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:13 pm
OK, this has to be a first- Dark Star> Freebird> Dark Star. :shock: :-)

"Phil & Friends' second set began with a cover of Skynyrd's "Mississippi Kid" and continued with another nod to the South in the Dead's "Alabama Getaway." Those waiting to hear Lesh play "Free Bird" finally had their chance towards the end of the closing stanza when the band worked the oft-requested classic into "Dark Star." "
 #133842  by ebick
 Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:42 pm
TI4-1009 wrote:OK, this has to be a first- Dark Star> Freebird> Dark Star. :shock: :-)
...and hopefully a "last"
 #133844  by tcsned
 Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:55 pm
Mississippi Kid is a cool tune, going to high school in the redneck part of northern Virginia I had to learn to play pretty much every Lynyrd Skynyrd song at one point or another. My Dead band has played Things Goin' On and we do Call Me the Breeze (but closer to JJ's original version). Back in the 80s I used to jam with some buddies and we worked up a jam that alternated between the Freebird ending and the ending of Yes' Starship Tooper (Würm) - FreeWürm! :D
 #133892  by flyingheelhook
 Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:59 am
Back in the 80s I used to jam with some buddies and we worked up a jam that alternated between the Freebird ending and the ending of Yes' Starship Tooper (Würm) - FreeWürm!
Nice! I've been trying to figure out how to work out some excerpts from 'Close to the Edge' into my solo acoustic material. Not sure that's plausible but still thinking about it! :lol:
 #133903  by gr8fulbluz
 Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:46 pm
tcsned wrote:. . . Back in the 80s I used to jam with some buddies and we worked up a jam that alternated between the Freebird ending and the ending of Yes' Starship Tooper (Würm) - FreeWürm! :D
Bizarre-io as I read this in the other room I hear starship trooper playing. I just have my mix playing randomly, strange timing.
 #133906  by tcsned
 Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:19 pm
gr8fulbluz wrote:
Bizarre-io as I read this in the other room I hear starship trooper playing. I just have my mix playing randomly, strange timing.
That's cool! You definitely get cool points for having Starship Trooper on your mix :) the bassist in my Dead band went as Rick Wakeman for Halloween complete with blonde wig and sparkly cape :)
 #133922  by gr8fullfred
 Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:59 am
I have said this before, Freebird is, without a doubt one of the top 10 rock and roll classics of all time. Just because a whole generation of people spent their entire college careers drinking beer and listening to Freebird, does not make it a bad song. Sorry if you are sick of the song, burnt out on the song or whatever.
Freebird is a rock and roll classic, and I bet Jerry would agree!

I think you could do an Uncle Johns Band into Freebird if you tried. And if you just do the song part, and not the ending jam, it would be easier to melt it in to something else.

Freebird freaking rocks, and I have and would play it anytime.

Great slide guitar playing on that song, Bobby could have learned something there!

Anybody on this board written a better rock and roll song lately? ever?

I think that I will listen to it right now on the ipod! TURN IT UP!
 #133925  by tcsned
 Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:37 am
Agreed, there's a reason why the tune got overplayed. Wasn't it written for Duane Allman? Plus, say what you will, but Skynyrd was one helluva rock band. Totally different animal than the Dead but damn good at what they did. That was some of the first stuff I learned to play and that attitude has kinda stuck with me. Rossington used 2 G strings instead of a B string and stuck a screwdriver or something under the strings to raise them off the fretboard on that slide part. Plus, Steve Gaines was one badass guitar player that got cut down way before his time. I saw the original band when I lived in Germany in the 70s and the newer iterations a couple of times.
 #133956  by Mr.Burns
 Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:26 am
Pretty sure Freebird was written before Duane died, and Ronnie Van Zandt only started saying it was for Duane after the fact. A nice sentiment for a fallen hero, nevertheless.
 #133965  by tcsned
 Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:18 am
Mr.Burns wrote:Pretty sure Freebird was written before Duane died, and Ronnie Van Zandt only started saying it was for Duane after the fact. A nice sentiment for a fallen hero, nevertheless.
Maybe so, Duane died in '71, the song was recorded in '73 but it was one of the songs Skynyrd had written before going into the studio for the first time. Either way, it was indeed a nice tribute.
 #133983  by Mr.Burns
 Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:25 pm
From Duane's Wikipedia page:

Shortly after Allman's death, Ronnie Van Zant of Lynyrd Skynyrd dedicated the song "Free Bird", to the memory of Duane Allman. Van Zant would sometimes allude to this in concert; in the "Free Bird" performance at Skynyrd's famed 1976 appearance at Knebworth, England, Van Zant says to pianist Billy Powell, "Play it for Duane Allman." Many people assume the song was written about Allman. However, it had actually been written well before he died. (Allen Collins wrote the song after his then girlfriend asked him the question "if I leave here tomorrow, would you still remember me?")
 #133984  by Griffyote
 Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:19 pm
FREEWURM?? I would love to hear that! both of those were my favorite songs at one time or another!
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 #133993  by tcsned
 Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:18 am
Mr.Burns wrote:From Duane's Wikipedia page:

Shortly after Allman's death, Ronnie Van Zant of Lynyrd Skynyrd dedicated the song "Free Bird", to the memory of Duane Allman. Van Zant would sometimes allude to this in concert; in the "Free Bird" performance at Skynyrd's famed 1976 appearance at Knebworth, England, Van Zant says to pianist Billy Powell, "Play it for Duane Allman." Many people assume the song was written about Allman. However, it had actually been written well before he died. (Allen Collins wrote the song after his then girlfriend asked him the question "if I leave here tomorrow, would you still remember me?")
Right on, there you have it :-)
 #136317  by the highway terror
 Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:05 pm
Freebird is an all time classic and a great song, i'll give you that .
I've jammed to it many-a-night
But, like you pointed out.
I'm one of the one's that's sick of it. I've heard it so many times I don't want to hear it again.
Stairway to Heaven and Turn the Page too.