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 #129953  by austinhumphrey
 Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:41 pm
im sure that somewhere on here there is a discussion about this but i thought i would open it up again. what kind of drive/ distortion pedals did jer use? it seems like there is just enough distortion to get the effect but his tone is always very light and clear. i tried a tube screamer to try to match it but it never sounds close to me. i saw something about him using a boss overdrive somewhere but im not sure how accurate that is and i have heard mixed responses as to the tone and quality of that pedal. what are all of you using? i was lookin at different mxr pedals, is that a good start? what are some other cool effects you like personally? this might be a good free for all pedal talk actually. let me know what you all are thinking.


-Austin
 #129961  by TI4-1009
 Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:44 am
You can't swing a cat around here without hitting a Jerry pedal discussion.

All is here, ready for your mining. The search button is your friend.

Or here:

http://dozin.com/gearheads.html

Or:

gear/jerry-garcias-gear/


"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for life."
 #129971  by austinhumphrey
 Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:39 am
i did some digging before, i couldn't find much that was specific to what was looking for, i was hoping that this would also be a discussion about pedals in general, you know? what pedals got you excited? do people even get that excited about pedals?... i digress... thanks for the links and helping me out!
 #129972  by austinhumphrey
 Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:49 am
i really like 70-74, but i guess i also like all the other years too ha im guessing that he didn't change gear too much when playing with the jgb?
 #129974  by Tennessee Jedi
 Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:50 pm
austinhumphrey wrote:i did some digging before, i couldn't find much that was specific to what was looking for, i was hoping that this would also be a discussion about pedals in general, you know? what pedals got you excited? do people even get that excited about pedals?... i digress... thanks for the links and helping me out!
Here is the group knowledge
forum/viewforum.php?f=319
 #129975  by tigerstrat
 Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:52 pm
austinhumphrey wrote:i did some digging before, i couldn't find much that was specific to what was looking for, i was hoping that this would also be a discussion about pedals in general, you know? what pedals got you excited? do people even get that excited about pedals?... i digress... thanks for the links and helping me out!
Are you asking for replies to be specific and general at the same time? The years 70-74 you named were pretty much devoid of pedals other than a Wah, although I will swear that some kind of additional dirt or fuzz is present in China Doll during 73-74.
 #129977  by austinhumphrey
 Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:30 pm
hit me with whatever, you all have already got me headed in a good direction. could 70- 74 be just an amp setting hooked up to a foot switch? you definitely hear some distortion those years. it's all over skull and roses which was 71 i think.
 #129978  by tigerstrat
 Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:17 pm
early years were overdriven amps, with additional gain coming from a Stratoblaster starting in early '72
 #130020  by Jerry1996x
 Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:55 am
+1 on natural amp distortion and and stratoblaster for pre 74. Around 78 I think, Jerry started using an MXR Distortion+ (script logo). He used that up for quite a while, but at some point started using a Boss distortion. Cant remember which one, all those yellow ones start to look the same after a while :D
 #130045  by midnightrainband
 Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:53 pm
Boss = OD1 - OD2-r and an occassional HM2. These were in th 80's and 90's Plus I believe the script distortion+ was still around
 #130049  by waldo041
 Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:51 pm
Mxr Dist + script
Boss Ds-1
Mxr Dist + Series 2000
Boss Hm-2
Boss Od-1 (jrc 4558 chip version)
Boss Od-2

~waldo
 #130076  by tigerstrat
 Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:02 am
waldo041 wrote:Mxr Dist + script
Boss Ds-1
Mxr Dist + Series 2000
Boss Hm-2
Boss Od-1 (jrc 4558 chip version)
Boss Od-2

~waldo
Then you've got pre-Mutron vs post-Mutron dirt. Let me know if this is accurate:

post-Mutron III
late 70's to '87: MXR Dist + ; '88-'95: OD-1

pre-Mutron III
starting in '79, a progression from DS-1 > Mxr Dist + Series 2000 > HM-2(brief) > OD-2

Has anyone nailed the debut date of the Distortion + yet? I still have never seen a photo of either of them on the floor, but you can hear it (and the Phase) in '77-'78... maybe '76 even? Good example is Comes A Time from 5/21/77- that has to a D+, no? There's the 12/31/78 photo where you can see the two Mutron pedals but not the MXR's, which to my knowledge first appear in a photo when the pedal rack debuts on 8/4/79. No time for hunting this stuff down like I used to...
 #130077  by TI4-1009
 Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:32 am
Ooooh, I'm getting all tingly! I just finished building my BYOC Dist+ and OD-1!