mgbills wrote:Also as a bit of a tangent...Why stop there ?
For players new to thick picks
Jerry played with his fingers a ton ....
IMHO its the weakest link of many Jerry Players .... myself included !
mgbills wrote:Also as a bit of a tangent...Why stop there ?
For players new to thick picks
TI4-1009 wrote:From the 70's on Jer had either the MXR or one or more of the Boss distortion/overdrive pedals in his rack. Do we know that he wasn't using them to get any of the "not quite clean, not quite distorted" edge? (as opposed to the clipping/pushing/technique part of it)At one point, before my endless hours surfing & listening actually did come to an end, I was trying to determine the show where Jerry first used the MXR Distortion+ on stage... I never did, but it seemed like I was narrowing it down to 77 or 78. To complicate this determination, a constant in the loop at the time also had a powerful gain stage that interacted with the front end of the preamp: the Mutron III (introduced either at the end of 76 or mid-76, ymmv)
TI4-1009 wrote:From the 70's on Jer had either the MXR or one or more of the Boss distortion/overdrive pedals in his rack. Do we know that he wasn't using them to get any of the "not quite clean, not quite distorted" edge? (as opposed to the clipping/pushing/technique part of it)Absoulutely. You can see from videos when Jerry flips the OBEL switch. Before he does that, he is playing straight into his Fender Twin head but he can still get a bit of dirt. I think his volume knob has more to do with it. Or even his humbucker switch.
mijknahs wrote:Another interesting observation is that Jerry SHOULD have been more "dirty" sounding when he was using the K120s (less power handling) but he is actually relatively "clean" in the mid to late 70's. I think his "dirtiest" sound comes when he was playing a 500 WATT per channel McIntosh (the MC2500 in 1983) and using E120s. Listen to some '83 shows. Great tone and playing but definitely "dirtier" than 76-77 or even 82 for that matter. If it comes from clipping the McIntosh or the speakers, I can't explain why it would be dirtier when using a more powerful amp.
SarnoMusicSolutions wrote:Yeah, it would seem like the MC2500 would make the JBLs clip harder than the MC2300 would. But then he wouldn't necessarily have to play the MC2500 as loud to get the same stage volume either.mijknahs wrote:Another interesting observation is that Jerry SHOULD have been more "dirty" sounding when he was using the K120s (less power handling) but he is actually relatively "clean" in the mid to late 70's. I think his "dirtiest" sound comes when he was playing a 500 WATT per channel McIntosh (the MC2500 in 1983) and using E120s. Listen to some '83 shows. Great tone and playing but definitely "dirtier" than 76-77 or even 82 for that matter. If it comes from clipping the McIntosh or the speakers, I can't explain why it would be dirtier when using a more powerful amp.
One way to view this is that it's an argument FOR the notion that the distortion heard was the speakers themselves. Likely Jerry was using just one channel of that Mc2500, which is really more like 575 watts or so. The Mc2300 is about 345 watts into a matched load. So in comparison, the JBL's could be experiencing that much more stress and excursion and saturation. It doesn't support the argument that the amp was clipping, but it does point to the speakers it seems.
How long did he use the Mc2500 instead of Budman (his most used Mc2300)?
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