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 #117528  by RiverRat
 Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:23 pm
Quarterpounder wrote:His cable almost looks like a speaker cable. My stomach is starting to turn a little.
...and it's probably plugged into a Crate amp. Let the retching commence!
 #117529  by Quarterpounder
 Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:37 pm
"edit by caspersvapors: btw the responses in this thread are stupid"

yes they are: it is a picture, not a mirror.

All in good fun of course, but pay more attention and make less stupid comments.

Thanks for playing!
 #117531  by caspersvapors
 Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:16 pm
Quarterpounder wrote:"edit by caspersvapors: btw the responses in this thread are stupid"

yes they are: it is a picture, not a mirror.

All in good fun of course, but pay more attention and make less stupid comments.

Thanks for playing!
oh shit you got me.

doesnt make the other responses in this thread less dumb. if anything that just confirms my observation about irsay and townshend having a chat
 #117532  by Quarterpounder
 Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:47 pm
I don't need to win, I just took the "stupid" comment too personally. I'm still having fun here and I hope you are too. Post on fellow rukinder. Everyone have a great weekend. Positive vibes all around!
 #117534  by TI4-1009
 Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:42 pm
seamones wrote:How come Waldo had to wear rubber gloves???? :lol:
Aw, geeeze, let's not go there, I'm sure there were perfectly justified medical reasons... :lol:
 #117622  by gregpoulos
 Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:42 am
I'm the guy playing the F chord "wrong" on Tiger in Irsay's office. :-)

Just wanted to chime in here since there seems to be some intelligent discussion around Jerry's guitars.

I don't know Irsay, but I found a connection to him through a mutual acquaintance and after a 2-year quest I finally got to play Tiger. My proposal to Irsay was a generous donation to one of his favorite charities in exchange for an hour with Tiger. Surprisingly, he declined my donation, but allowed me the visit. Afterward, I ended up making a donation anyway to the Indiana State Museum, where Tiger was on display earlier this year.

Irsay wasn't there, but his personal guitar tech, Chris, was, who was a genuinely nice, humble guy who drove to Irsay's office specifically to let me see the guitar at Irsay's request.

I didn't know if they would allow me to play Tiger and I had no expectations. I would've been happy to just to be in the same room.

What can I say? It was everything I hoped it would be and a lot more. A dream come true. After having played just about every Dead song on guitar for over 25 years, and after having meticulously studied Jerry's technique, slowing down tapes trying to cop licks, etc... it was just awesome.

I asked if we could plug it in and the tech hunted down a 9-volt battery, so I guess they weren't expecting to do that, but he graciously made it happen. There was a Vox amp and just one 1/4" patch cord and that's it, so all I could really do was play through this rig with a clean sound and a little reverb. Definitely not ideal and it was hard to dig in, but in this situation, considering everything, it was more than enough.

I ran through snippets of about a dozen Garcia tunes, including Eyes, Shakedown, Althea, Black Peter, Help on the Way, Franklin's Tower, Scarlet Begonias, Fire, Terrapin, TLEO, FOTD, Casey Jones, and a few others. Althea probably sounded the closest to Garcia's tone given the rig I was playing through.

I was a little nervous and it was hard to focus. I tried not to think too much about the mojo and history around Tiger or else my fingers would probably have locked up. It was pretty intense.

I ran through all the pickups to hear the differences in tone. Again, kind of hard to really appreciate because of the rig and low volume, but I didn't want to overstay my welcome.

The string action was very low, and I know Jerry liked it high, so either someone lowered the action along the way or it just got like that over the years.

For a 13.5 pound guitar, it didn't feel heavy, although I was not standing with a strap, where I imagine you would feel the weight after a three hour gig.

It is a beautiful guitar, and the inlay work on the back is gorgeous. I had seen so many photos of this guitar before, so I kind of new what to expect, but I was surprised to see that there is brass binding along the entire length of the side of the fretboard with fret markets on the brass. There were also numerous holes along the brass that were covered with brass. Maybe this is where Irwin attached the binding to the neck? I dunno.

For the most part, when I posted some photos on Facebook, the response was positive, but I was surprised at how much negativity was out there, too. Some people are just miserable.

All I know is that I know I was lucky, Irsay was very generous and self-less to allow me to do this, and I will never forget it.

I'm writing up a detailed account of the whole thing that I'll post here if anyone is interested, and I have a lot more photos.

 #117627  by TI4-1009
 Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:13 am

Congratulations, you hit the jackpot! Thanks for posting here. For better or for worse, Irsay's purchase of Tiger hits a nerve here for many. It's understandable knowing the deep emotion attached to that beautiful piece of wood and brass, not to mention its history. Right or wrong, agree or disagree, "it is what it is". Jer wanted Irwin to have it, Doug made it and could do what he wanted/had to do with it in his situation.

I made the trip out to Indy just to see Tiger at the museum- report here:


Please post any additional photos, most of us just can't get enough. I have a Phiga Tiger tribute.

 #117628  by mijknahs
 Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:18 am
Thanks Greg for sharing your experience and please post more photos. We love to see it in all it's detail!
 #117631  by tcsned
 Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:36 am
Thanks for sharing Greg! It's cool to see that guitar still getting played. I would disagree with those that say that this guitar should be in a glass case and not touched by human hands again. A guitar that isn't played is no longer a musical instrument it's a stick of wood. Plus, let an instrument sit too long and it goes to hell. If I owned that guitar I'd play it, I wouldn't take it to a bar gig . . . who am I kidding, yes, I'd take it to a bar gig. It would be truly sad if the coolest guitar ever built sat around idle. I'll never forgive irsay's dad for sneaking the Colts out of Baltimore in the middle of the night but the younger Irsay seems a lot cooler than his dad.