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 #113769  by mgbills
 Thu May 10, 2012 1:10 pm
Good Afternoon All,

There was a tread a while back with a tangent on where to place an Earth Drive (or similiar device) in the signal chain.

My recollection (dangerous territory) of the discussion is as follows:
1) Keep the ED in the OBEL chain.
2) Place the ED between the output of the guitar and the input of the SMS.

Did anyone A/B this? I'm seriously contemplating the second ED. I want one for my little rig, and I may want it to reside prior to the preamp on the rack rig.

Seemed like a really interesting topic that was buried in another discussion. Care to chime in?
 #113773  by eric
 Thu May 10, 2012 6:09 pm
Iirc, placing it right before the preamp input was the suggested use in the overly loud clean setup
 #113774  by JonnyBoy
 Thu May 10, 2012 7:02 pm
I dunno if anyone else does this, but for a long time I have two "dirt" pedals in my OBEL, an HM-2 which is balls to the walls distortion that has nice compressed gilmourish lead tone that honks quite nicely with the tone knob turned down, and a SD1 that gives me a OD crunch which I use most often. I place them in my OBEL as an effect I want to bring in and bring out during a song or jam quickly and easily. Then at the same time, I would run a Tube OD at the end of the chain right before my delay that goes to the preamp. That one is barely up to emulate a soft clipping as a part of my overall amp tone, despite any effects I am using at any one moment, its always on. I use this pedal especially when I can't be loud enough to get it out of my tubes/amp due to volume constraints usually.

So depending on what you want to use it for you may want to put it in one or the other places. I kinda think of my OBEL as the set it and forget it area, and my short guitar to amp run the tweaker ally. that is why I keep my delay in that line too.

I don't think you will run that much of a tone difference in either placement, especially if you have a buffer and its in its own loop within the OBEL like a pedal switcher. One difference would be that turning the volume of the guitar up and down wouldn't really affect the pedals tone within the OBEL but would right after the guitar in line with the preamp. Try it out in both, see what you like! As transparent as it sounds I would probably opt for using it like a part of my preamp as a tone shaper/clipper always on.
 #113859  by zambiland
 Sat May 12, 2012 10:42 pm
I enjoy having mine in the effects loop of a 3 Leaf Groove Regulator 2. Granted, I'm playing bass, but it makes for some very cool sounds.