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 #110282  by jahozer
 Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:16 pm
believe whatever you want, bro. Its a fact that pros rent their backline equipment when it makes sense too.
 #110295  by Phil Lesh101
 Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:31 pm
So Bob, Phil, John, Joe and Jeff are all going to rent equipment? and all of their PA? and the rugs the use too!
SWEET
 #110309  by Rusty the Scoob
 Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:46 am
Phil Lesh101 wrote:So Bob, Phil, John, Joe and Jeff are all going to rent equipment? and all of their PA? and the rugs the use too!
SWEET
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Unique or specially modified items will nearly always get trucked or flown, along with guitars, basses, and probably rugs some of the time. Keyboards and bass amps are often rented, sometimes drums and guitar amps too. Every city has at least one company with a warehouse full of gear, ready to rent.
 #110321  by Rusty the Scoob
 Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:58 am
Phil Lesh101 wrote:man, I can't wait until Furthur plays in NYC again so I can see their stuff.
It's just stuff, it doesn't make music by itself. Like Jahozer said, if they were in Philly the night before and Atlantic City the night after, it's probably gear that they own and trucked in. If they flew in from LA the night before and are heading to London the next night, they probably rented a lot of it.
 #110322  by Bassman
 Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:07 am
jahozer wrote:believe whatever you want, bro. Its a fact that pros rent their backline equipment when it makes sense too.
This is true Rusty. I know a guy that works for a company that rents out backline equipment for the big shows
all over NYC. In fact he personally was part of the crew that set up Phil's wall of 4 Eden D410XLT's.
 #110326  by strumminsix
 Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:55 am
Bassman wrote:
jahozer wrote:believe whatever you want, bro. Its a fact that pros rent their backline equipment when it makes sense too.
This is true Rusty. I know a guy that works for a company that rents out backline equipment for the big shows
all over NYC. In fact he personally was part of the crew that set up Phil's wall of 4 Eden D410XLT's.
The same guy who put a King Kong on Phils stack?
 #110331  by Stone
 Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:51 am
Phil Lesh101 wrote:So Bob, Phil, John, Joe and Jeff are all going to rent equipment? and all of their PA? and the rugs the use too!
SWEET

Actually ALOT of the shit you see on tour is "rented" in accordance to the rider. In many cases so and so's guitar tech will coordinate with a back line rental company when playing a fly date. PA is rented in the sense that the sound provider is a hired contractor who also most times then not work within a rider also. Same with lighting. Far as equipment they own at this point would fit in a small ryder truck. Equipment on tour has to perform so reliable that things such as dealership support and logistics become so much more important then owning vs. renting. :D
 #110347  by Bassman
 Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:16 pm
I wonder if Phil travels with his own Eden heads and preamp etc?
 #110353  by Phil Lesh101
 Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:18 pm
Bassman wrote:I wonder if Phil travels with his own Eden heads and preamp etc?
No! everyone said he rents everything and only owns a bass.
 #110354  by waldo041
 Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:55 pm
Phil Lesh101 wrote:
Bassman wrote:I wonder if Phil travels with his own Eden heads and preamp etc?
No! everyone said he rents everything and only owns a bass.
so, does he rent the stickers on that rig as well? or does he rent the same rig for every venue? just kidding! of course it's his rig! :smile:

peace,
waldo
 #110356  by Bassman
 Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:51 pm
waldo041 wrote:
Phil Lesh101 wrote:
Bassman wrote:I wonder if Phil travels with his own Eden heads and preamp etc?
No! everyone said he rents everything and only owns a bass.
so, does he rent the stickers on that rig as well? or does he rent the same rig for every venue? just kidding! of course it's his rig! :smile:

peace,
waldo
Word!!!
 #110388  by Phil Lesh101
 Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:34 pm
waldo041 wrote:
Phil Lesh101 wrote:
Bassman wrote:I wonder if Phil travels with his own Eden heads and preamp etc?
No! everyone said he rents everything and only owns a bass.
so, does he rent the stickers on that rig as well? or does he rent the same rig for every venue? just kidding! of course it's his rig! :smile:

peace,
waldo
I know, that's what I have been trying to say! But everyone says they rent